Fallout 4 [PS4, PS5, XO, XBSX|S, PC, XGP]

[Deleted member 11852]

How to craft adhesives! They're so hard to come by in the wasteland so why not just made them. I show how to harvest the materials for this:

Sorry but this guide is TERRIBLE. Why do you keep traveling to Sunshine Tidings Co-op to cook? There is a cooking station in Sanctuary Hills - unless you destroyed it? You'll need Local Leader Rank 2 to rebuild it if so!

As for your plan to sit around (over and over and over) waiting for a trader to buy dirty water to cook into purified water, have you not considered building a water purifier? Build the biggest one you can and your workshop will fill with purified water.

This tutorial is an example of how not to do it.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

I've had a experienced a lot of that's cool.. moments but...

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The Brotherhood of Steel arriving in their airship and Vertibirds is AWESOME!

 

[Gubbi]

Fallout 4 taking a toll on the porn business:
http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/15/pornh...raffic-on-the-day-fallout-4-came-out-5502645/

Cheers

 

[rabidrabbit]

This is why Bethesda open worlds rock: I was happily constructing away in Sanctuary Hills, when a robot (the kind that looks like a little hovering tv with spikes) came flying down the road, blabbering about a job offering in Cambridge. This eventuallly lead to a really awesome quest. And what's so cool about it is that I didn't have to go to a marker or talk to someone. Instead it just happened.

I destroyed that robot as it frightened me when I saw it when I was exploring the Sanctuary the first time :/
I wonder if that job offer will still be open for me, or was that drone essential for the mission?

 

[Clukos]

Can't say i am enjoying the game sadly, i reached

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Diamond city and the trinity tower

And the games performance is really underwhelming on my PC (i5 3570 @4.4ghz, 970 bios flashed to run 1481/7800 core/mem, 16 gigs of ram and the game is installed on a 850 pro SSD). I have to lower god rays to low and set shadow distance to medium (same as consoles) and the game still dips below 60 fps quite often (to 30-40), which makes the game nearly unplayable with all the stuttering. And CPU/GPU usage doesn't even reach 70% in those areas. Betheseda, change that damn engine!

Other than technical difficulties i don't really think it's something special, i enjoy playing it when everything is working as it should but it seems like the game doesn't even try to do something different, what i played seems more of the same. I'll try to give it a second chance after it's patched and when it (hopefully) works better on PC but from my first 8 hours of playing it i get the impression that while the game is definitely not bad, it's not great either.

Some good things

• TAA produces a very stable image (while in motion and when stationary), one of the cleanest looking games in 2015, improves overall visuals a lot
• I like the world, way more colorful than Fallout 3
• You can customize the HUD color! That was a nice surprize :smile:

The things i have a problem with

• Characters/story uninteresting, i don't even care what happen to whom etc.
• Inventory system is plainly put bad, especially on PC, i don't even want to change armor because of going through all the hassle of using that system...
• Dialogue system

 

[Deleted member 11852]

Did you mean to post this in the PC thread? There's a bunch of folks there with modest setups who can probably steer you right about tweak settings to make the game run better but there does seem to be some weirdness about the effects of some of the settings.

I do like the new world, I like that the little communities (not player made settlements) contain more enterable buildings to explore and taht there is more verticality to the environments in that they want to you climb up here, then run and jump over to here then drop down into here. It's a weird habit to get into in a Fallout game but the running and jumping feel great with a controller. A spent some time in downtown Boston leaping from roof to roof like Batman and made some super mutant's lives hell over one game night and it felt great.

I agree on the inventory system. While better than Skyrim and being abel to sort things is helpful, I'd appreciate a quick way to swap between my combat gear to my +charm gear for selling and conversations. It's easy with an empty inventory but if you're loaded down with salvaged apparel to sell or recycle then you have to be really careful or you'll lose a piece of gear.

I'm genuinely liking the story and the characters but this is obviously subjective. You may have to resign yourself that this isn't the game for you. Making the game run better surely isn't going to make you like the story or its characters any more and it sounds like you're not digging the core mechanics either.

 

[DuckThor Evil]

And the games performance is really underwhelming on my PC (i5 3570 @4.4ghz, 970 bios flashed to run 1481/7800 core/mem, 16 gigs of ram and the game is installed on a 850 pro SSD). I have to lower god rays to low and set shadow distance to medium (same as consoles) and the game still dips below 60 fps quite often (to 30-40), which makes the game nearly unplayable with all the stuttering. And CPU/GPU usage doesn't even reach 70% in those areas. Betheseda, change that damn engine!

What resolution are you running and what speed does your main RAM operate?

 

[Clukos]

1600 mhz and 1080p, you think maybe that's the problem? I could try overclocking the ram a bit if that's the case but i didn't have to do that with any other game so far. And i actually don't mind the mechanics of the game, i really like V.A.T.S and everything else, i just think it doesn't try to differentiate itself from previous installments that much.

 

[DuckThor Evil]

1600 mhz and 1080p, you think maybe that's the problem? I could try overclocking the ram a bit if that's the case but i didn't have to do that with any other game so far. And i actually don't mind the mechanics of the game, i really like V.A.T.S and everything else, i just think it doesn't try to differentiate itself from previous installments that much.

The game does seem to be somewhat hungry for memory bandwith, but I'm not sure if 1600Mhz is a problem. Your results are unusually low for some reason. You do have the latest drivers?

Perhaps this should be in the PC section?

Memory speed comparison:

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http://www.techspot.com/review/1089-fallout-4-benchmarks/page6.html

 

[DrJay24]

I've had a experienced a lot of that's cool.. moments but...

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The Brotherhood of Steel arriving in their airship and Vertibirds is AWESOME!

Speaking of that, I tried the quest for the Minutemen to take the fort. Great idea until a

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level 50 crab spawned and I could barely touch it. It was killing me over and over and over. Finally I ran for it and then threw the flare for the Vertibird. Problem is you can't direct it, so I could not get a clear shot. So I kept redirecting it all over the map and making it fly over the fort and then killed the crab with the Gatling gun. Mission accomplished! I then found a rocket launcher in the fort, doh!

 

[Deleted member 11852]

Speaking of that, I tried the quest for the Minutemen to take the fort. Great idea until a..

Ha.. I've yet to do Taking Independence but I will in a day or two! Preston's account of what happened at the Fort has made me think I need better equipment. I thought Gun Nut rank 3 was lvl 23 but it's 25 and I'm a shade shy of 25 right now but I'm more worried about my armour.

Because I've been playing as a sneaky sniper my armour really hasn't been an issue and I have a few legendary pieces which keeps me safe from stray shots and poor planning, plus I have my T-45 power armour (now in Hot Rod Red - and if I can gold a gold colour for the chest piece I'll look like Iron Man!) so I'm doing the BH quests to get a set of T-60 - a least I hope they've giving out T-60!

Overall I'm liking the plot..

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I like that I was introduced to synths quite early from visiting ArcJet with Paladin Danse and they seem like the ominous and eponymous bad guys but you just know there is going to be some kind of twist to their motives but right now they've tried to kill me too many times so I'm throwing in with the Brotherhood of Steel for the time being even though I'm good buddies with Nick, who may be my favourite companion which is saying a lot because they'll all pretty good!

 

[warcrow]

This is one of the most disturbing bugs I've ever seen in a Fallout game. No, any game, actually:

 

[DrJay24]

I was like level 15 with no power armor. I have yet to try to figure out armor and weapon upgrading, they just keep handing me weapons.

 

[deathindustrial]

This is one of the most disturbing bugs I've ever seen in a Fallout game. No, any game, actually

Ha! I had a similar incident happen inside a building where an enemies' dismembered arm attached itself to a wire waste basket and proceeded to go all poltergeist and start spinning and jumping around randomly all over the place.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

I was like level 15 with no power armor. I have yet to try to figure out armor and weapon upgrading, they just keep handing me weapons.

Your relatively low level may have been a blessing. Remember how easy it was to complete Fallout 3 at level 12 or below but after that the game unleashed tougher enemies in a rather steep curve? I'm expecting a kicking because I'm already seeing much more powerful versions of enemies in the wasteland so I've obviously crossed the level threshold where the game has figured the basic enemies pose no challenge so now it's flat out trying to murder me!

 

[RenegadeRocks]

game is so engrossing.
I still have found no use for those power armours, I seems to have found another one which is uber statwise, but it just lies there at sanctuary. How am I supposed to lug them around when I will just lose all fusion cores in just walking around ????? :-/
Levelling up is either slow or I am just spending too much time doing what I shouldn't be doing. I just explore whatever I see on the way to the mission.

 

[DrJay24]

Your relatively low level may have been a blessing. Remember how easy it was to complete Fallout 3 at level 12 or below but after that the game unleashed tougher enemies in a rather steep curve? I'm expecting a kicking because I'm already seeing much more powerful versions of enemies in the wasteland so I've obviously crossed the level threshold where the game has figured the basic enemies pose no challenge so now it's flat out trying to murder me!

According the SE book, the levels of mobs does not scale. They have a map which shows how the levels of mobs changes moving from area to area. I often have to run from level 20 super mutants if I venture into harder territory. I think they gave up scaling mobs after Oblivion.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

According the SE book, the levels of mobs does not scale.

You're absolutely right and I do now recall Todd Howard clarified this himself. Excellent! I really should have noticed this when I returned to the Corvega plant over the weekend to pickup a bobblehead and the respawned raiders died even from hits to the arm or leg. Fair enough, I am have a 102 base damage sniper rifle - 2.6x damage on sneak attacks thanks to 3 ranks of Sneak and 2 ranks of Mister Sandman

I guess it's to to take Independence!

 

[Sigfried1977]

I'm level 27 right now, and either the wasteland got quite a bit rougher, or I'm simply unlucky with certain enemy spawns. I definitely didn't have to fend off deathclaws from settlements located as close to sanctuary as the drive-in theater earlier in the game. There's also a respawning, fatman-wielding raider decked out in full power armor near the giant factory now. I don't mind it though. It's nothing like the trash mobs in Oblivion who suddenly evolved to god-like status overnight. Seems more in line with the systems in Skyrim. Probably even more subtle.

Still completely absorbed by the game. Seems relatively polished too. Certainly more so than any other Bethesda game I've played so far. A couple collision issues here and there and some bizarre framerate problems in the unlikeliest of places, but that's basically it.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

I'm level 27 right now, and either the wasteland got quite a bit rougher, or I'm simply unlucky with certain enemy spawns. I definitely didn't have to fend off deathclaws from settlements located as close to sanctuary as the drive-in theater earlier in the game.

This. This is why I assumed the game was doing some kind of enemy scaling. Maybe it's not strictly scaling the enemies outside a specific range but it's definietly throwing in harder types of enemies (or replacing weaker enemies with more powerful variants) where they didn't used to exist.

I think this is necessary to keep the game challenging at higher levels. Most of the reviews I read said the reviever completed the main story at shade under level 30 yet I can see Gun Nut rank 4 is level 39 and other perks are in the 40+ level range. I can certainly see myself playing until level 40 if not higher so thje game has to be throwing out tougher enemies otherwise it'll be ridiculous easy down the line. At level 25 opponents with gattling lasers, mini guns, missiles launchers and fat men are not uncommon. I've not encountered a raider in power armour yet but I know they exist because one pop up during a loading screen.

I'm not yet decided if I'll level my character until I've grabbed all (or most of) the perks or if I'll roll another build and replay with some different choices. Decisons, decisions! But right now, I'm very like you and still utterly absorbed by this world, more than half of which is compeltely unexplored and which the bits I have visited warrant a lot more exploration.