Do you currently own a HDTV?

[NavNucST3]

NucNav you are nothing if not master of your own audio/video destiny, I'll grant you that.

And that's right! ...the 5-10 minute rule will never fail you.

@Rancid: Ok you're starting to get a littletoo excited over some of this data. I followed your thoughts through the last iteration, but I'm not sure I get where you're headed now. Are you about to drop your 'Unified Theory of Electronics Purchasing Behavior' on us? It's science run amok!!

FWIW, I just sold my DVHS, now that I can stream HD through the 360s to my TVs. I think I am about to put the 30" hdtv out to pasteur for like $200/$300 or put it in the yard with a sign "FREE HDTV" (anyone in Denver want it, ). I'm really looking at the 50+" 1080p DLPs but I think I want to wait until I see an SED in-person. If I get a new TV, that would definitely nix the PS3 for this year, because I hope to be moving back to Chicago, and the move won't be cheap.

 

[TrungGap]

And this is interesting in this discussion.. HOW?

If anybody can get the statistics of the consumers in NA who don't even own a TV and somehow demonstrate that such a demographic is important to the sale of console games, then.. more power to you.

Until then, this information is completely meaningless, shouldn't have even been offered by anybody who understands what we are trying to accomplish, and certainly shouldn't be factored in to any sort of analysis on the issue.

Well, it was meant as a joke.

However, to limit you scope to only people you own TV is pretty silly. It's like saying, what makes xbox360 sell so well in Japan, but limit the scope to people who own a xbox360. You see the flaw in that logic? Because you limited you sample to people who cares about it to buy it. What about the people you haven't reached? Why aren't they buying?

If you read what zed wrote you would understand for him, it's not about display but the content. He doesn't like TV programming, but prefer movies. So to him, you can't sell him a TV, but if you package it as display/monitor and focused on those features that appeal him you can get him to buy it.

 

[cthellis42]

But don't your see, TrungGap, PS3 games won't sell because there are no PS3's on the market, so it will have no developer support and shouldn't bother even being released to begin with!

 

[TrungGap]

But don't your see, TrungGap, PS3 games won't sell because there are no PS3's on the market, so it will have no developer support and shouldn't bother even being released to begin with!

Ah, but that's where you're wrong. Sony will be releasing a new line of Ultra True HDTV. It's massive resolution will create a bend in the space thus creating a blackhole which allows Sony to travel to an alternative universe (back in time if you will), to change history. Do not underestimate Sony and its Ultra True HDTV.

 

[rounin]

Ah, but that's where you're wrong. Sony will be releasing a new line of Ultra True HDTV. It's massive resolution will create a bend in the space thus creating a blackhole which allows Sony to travel to an alternative universe (back in time if you will), to change history. Do not underestimate Sony and its Ultra True HDTV.

 

[Diamond.G]

I got a Panny that does 720P native... Although I'll admit I want the Westinghouse 37inch model (it does 1080P)...

 

[sonyps35]

Currently I have a 27" SDTV flatscreen. I paid $300 a couple years ago. It is an off brand from Best Buy called Advent. That was never big and they no longer carry.

Pretty terrible TV. I guess it's ok but I cant stand playing video games on it anymore as I'm too used to high res PC monitor.

In the future I am looking to get a 26 or 27" 720P LCD as soon as possible. You can find decent off-brand models for ~$500 on special if you keep an eye out..Syntax Olivia's are supposed to be good.

My brother has a 27" Westinghouse LCD TV and it's nice..

Really I could get a 32" for $800, but I always kinda feel guilty for spending a lot of money, and dont have a lot of room, so I think I'll be happier with the 26".

 

[Shifty Geezer]

And the same goes for 360, so what's with the "half of the HDTV owners here should see a resolution beenfit from PS3" nonsense?

You appear to have trouble reading my posts at the moment. In that other thread I mention Mindshare is as important as price and software, and you respond saying I was talking of it being more important than those two. Then in this thread, I was unsure of output, and wasn't stating it as fact but explained my reasoning to the difference...

So half of the HDTV owners here should see a resolution beenfit from PS3(?). XB360 doesn't render to 1080i does it? I recall the idea that everything was rendered in 720p and scaled, but that theory seems to have been blown out of the water. Can it render to 1080i buffer? Any games doing that yet?

See? Question marks. I'm unsure. From what I understood, based on talk yonks back that XB360 rendered everything at 720p and scaled, it couldn't render at 1080i, only output. But I said I wasn't certain of this point and I was corrected.

And yes, you're right, any game that can be rendered at 720p can be rendered at 1080i on either console, which means there is no resolution advantage on PS3 as I first questioningly suggested.

 

[croc hunter2]

LG HD Plasma 105cm(1366x768)

Sony Superfine Pitch 72cm CRT (Basically an XBR960 for AUS)

Sim2 3x9inch CRT SVD 800HD Projector.

The Sony has the best PQ, the SIM2 is a 3M+ screen and looks fab and the LG is no slouch either.

The Tard pack PS3 will look fantastic on all of these. I do not need the HDMI one given that ICT flags will be not in till 2010 and i plan to have new tvs by then and a PSThree will probably be out.

 

[London Geezer]

720p UK HD-Ready TV for me (actually 1366x768 but i digress). Not at my place cause it's being repaired. Damn Samsung... Next time i'll just stick to Sony or Panasonic.

 

[hey69]

you have to note the owners of hdtv are different when you compare USA and EUROPE citizens.

it's only since a few years since the introduction of LCD panels we can enjoy the greatness of hdtv over here.

IF hdtv crt's where available over here many years ago like in the usa, a lot more people would have HDTV sets

 

[London Geezer]

you have to note the owners of hdtv are different when you compare USA and EUROPE citizens.

it's only since a few years since the introduction of LCD panels we can enjoy the greatness of hdtv over here.

IF hdtv crt's where available over here many years ago like in the usa, a lot more people would have HDTV sets

A few years? HD standards in Europe were only finalised in September last year! Disgusting huh... but it seems to be spreading quite well, everything considered...

 

[Mariner]

I got my HDTV about 10 days ago! Toshiba 32WLT66 LCD which provides a very nice image, even on SD transmissions. It looks luuuurvely.

The quality of LCD screens has improved incredibly over the past couple of years - colour, viewing angle and motion are much much better. It doesn't hurt that the TV takes up about a third of the space my old tube did either!

 

[pc999]

Well, PC999 you can choose to downplay it, but as you say, since this board represents 'those types of people,' it shows that for the launch of 360 and PS3, indeed these consideratons are important. And just like Digitalwanderer's set is from Christmas time last year, there are going to be a lot more HD sets this year, and then the year after that, etc...

We are the people that buy these things at launch; we are fully representative. We are not the mainstream. But then again, the mainstream of three years from now won't be the mainstream of today either in terms of HDTV penetration.

I am not downplaying it, althought I agree I may overlooked your second point, I made that comment just to alert to not fall in the error of thinking that this is representative of general market.

 

[ChryZ]

720P, 32" LCD from LG (1366/768), PS2 on component, GC on DVI-I (modded component to VGA cable + VGA to DVI-A adapter) and HTPC on HDMI (DVI-D to HDMI adapter). Next gen setup is going to be REV on component, HTPC on DVI-I and PS3 on HDMI.

I'm very happy with my TV.

 

[trinibwoy]

I think another trend we might begin to see is that of HDTV set purchases coinciding with a 'justifying factor' elsewhere in that individuals life.

I agree with this point. Most of the electronics I own was purchased when I moved into my apartment ~ 3 years ago. For most people, I think there has to be some other stimulus to upgrade a TV because the HD content still isn't compelling enough.

 

[sir doris]

Well for me it's because my new lounge isn't big enough to take my 36" CTR, so i'm going with a 26" LCD (768x136?) and a projector (720p as 1080p PJs are scary £££)

 

[Blazkowicz]

21" CRT Philips in the living room (nice, flat screen with square borders ). it's 576i and mostly fed with analog non NTSC TV, so looks good.
no need to change it till it's broken.

I also have an Amstrad CPC 464/6128 screen with SECAM tuner add-on module (how weird is that), and an Atari monitor (ST era) with RGB SCART which was used for SNES gaming. (both, 14", can do RGB but not composite, that's how it is here with old junk)
When in student dorm I think I'll use the Atari monitor with a digital tuner. (that DTV crap should work in big city)

 

[Acert93]

With 163 votes I noticed something interesting:

Users who console game on Computer Monitors: 11

Users with 1080p HDTVs: 11

I find that very interesting, especially since I use a 21" Sony Trinitron CRT for gaming (modded GCN component cable). Whether I get a PS3 or Xbox 360 will depend on the quality of 720p support on computer displays. I know the 360 had some issues but this has been resolved for the most part. The biggest issue is for games that don't add a letterbox for 1280x1024 that you have to select a 720p signal and manually squash it with the CRT. In a perfect world you have an internal scalar and/or pixel mapping. I don't have either...

While us computer display users are not a big part of the market, it seems that using a monitor is a legit niché in the market. While we don't represent early adopters or enthusiests in general, a nearly 7% share of people here at B3D using monitors is more than I expected.

I also don't own a TV and all console gaming is done on a computer monitor. Yes, I am among the 3 freaks

Also, those who are getting a little excited about this poll: Chill! It is not intended to be an representation of the general market, enthusiests on average, etc. It is only a survey of us, B3D posters, to get an idea of where we are in the market. Give us a good idea of our bias, preferences, and how that relates to how we look at the market. There are many ways to craft such a poll; I crafted this one with my interests in mind (no TV, console gaming on a monitor) and with getting a rough idea of who owns HD sets and which kind, and who is still in the stone-age

 

[PeterT]

Well, not all computer monitors are 4:3 you know

My PS2 is connected to a Dell 2405FPW via component - I do own a TV, but no longer use it for anything (never actually watch TV).