Digital Foundry Article Technical Discussion [2025]
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hmm, is this also the case versus standard PS5 ? If so, then we can assume it's deliberate for 5Pro. If its the same as PS5, then we can assume there may have been oversight on this one, and they borrowed settings from PS5.
As usual, great work here by DF. Looking forward to the rest of their analysis on the various platforms, but for readers out there just creeping on this forum, the reason they don't release all the videos at once is because it's just a ton of work to analyze so many platforms that they have to break it up like this.
I think I finally realized why DF does a better job at marketing games than the companies themselves; it's because we can see the gameplay thoroughly analyzed, and appreciate things that most people would have just run by and that helps, because how games present themselves is significantly more than just fps and resolution.
yes same as PS5.
snc
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Disagree that its one of the best upgrade on pro. In 60fps (even though nice that have rtgi) resolution is low and image quality is not good enough. Two other modes that are the way to go are very similar to base ps5.
One really needs to ask questions of the AC devs.... In the balanced and quality modes, why is the performance of the base ps5 relatively similar to that of the pro? The resolutions are relatively similar and the settings are allegedly similar? The pro is purportedly 2-4x faster in raytracing and 45% faster in raster yet the outcome in those modes are eerily similar? It's a real headscratcher....
It comes down to where the bottlenecks are. You cant use up all your raster and ray tracing if you don’t have the bandwidth for it.
Are we sure that bandwidth is the limiting factor? I don't know, just asking... The performance differential in hardware doesn't manifest itself in the game outside of the perf mode so..... it's something that certainly puzzling. Another question worth asking is what work was done to mitigate/alleviate bottlenecks if any? I can't imagine they spent too much time on the pro version with all the versions of the game they needed to put out.
We don’t know. I’m just saying thst compute can’t do anything without bandwidth. So it despite having way more compute, if you don’t have bandwidth to take advantage of it, the compute sits idle. Typically speaking, compute sits idle. It’s takes way more cycles to move data from memory into cache and then into registers and back out, than it ever does for compute to do its job.
5Pro has about the same bandwidth as XSX, so any rendering paths that hit VRAM hard is going to hamstring the utilization of its increased compute power.
Johnny Awesome
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But but but ... Cerny said ... time to triangle... but ...
Have a sense of humor.
Have a sense of humor.
cheapchips
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snc
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its not using and not sure its good idea: 1) other ubi games like avatar and star war outlaws didnt scale best with pssr 2) rtgi seems to take whole compute advantage of pro in performance mode
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