Digital Foundry Article Technical Discussion [2024]

[Shifty Geezer]

New Year, New Thread.

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[Shifty Geezer]

Copy from prior thread:

 

[oliemack]

Let me inaugurate the 2024 thread with a 2024 video!

 

[chris1515]

 

[mr magoo]

Look and learn kids this is some f… quality content right here. Rich is great.

 

[Below2D]

Curious but at 10:27, Rich mentions that he downclocked the 6700 to 2.23GHz to match the PS5. Later on, he used the DRS of the Xbox version and the PC still performed noticeably better at times. Did he maintain the 2.23GHz clock? I assume he did.

 

[Dr. Nick]

Any signs that the issue on Xbox is culling related?

 

[Remij]

Any signs that the issue on Xbox is culling related?

I dunno, but I found this interesting issue.

 

[Dr. Nick]

I dunno, but I found this interesting issue.

Yeah I noticed that too but since I haven't played the game I just thought it might be some random generation thing or weather differences that might have blocked it from view. Glad that I'm not the only one that noticed.

 

[davis.anthony]

Going through the video frame by frame you can clearly see multiple examples where LOD is higher on Series-X compared to PS5.

 

[Dictator]

I dunno, but I found this interesting issue.

City completely Missing on PS5 uhhhhh

@davis.anthony can you Post some screens? I have been working on The Finals so I have Not even had a chance to Watch this yet.

 

[davis.anthony]

City completely Missing on PS5 uhhhhh

@davis.anthony can you Post some screens? I have been working on The Finals so I have Not even had a chance to Watch this yet.

Sure thing Alex, I've only taken one quick shot as I'm play Titanfall 2.

The smaller details are already present on Series-X where as on PS5 they're still fizzling in to view, this is despite PS5 actually being closer to the building than Series-X is too.

You have to look for it, but there does seem to be a slightly higher LOD setting on SeriesX for certain objects.

 

[iroboto]

snip

 

[snc]

Rx6700 clearly outperforming xsx is hard to explain

 

[davis.anthony]

Rx6700 clearly outperforming xsx is hard to explain

Not really as the 6700 would benefit from the same performance improvements PS5 enjoys due to it's higher clock speed.

The game was released on last generation consoles so the engine is likely more suited to faster GPU's rather than wide ones.

 

[Remij]

Rx6700 clearly outperforming xsx is hard to explain

Just from eyeballing it it looks like the Series X looks a decent bit higher resolution in than the PS5 in that screen.. judging from the steps in the car window frame on the left.

 

[snc]

Not really as the 6700 would benefit from the same performance improvements PS5 enjoys due to it's higher clock speed.

The game was released on last generation consoles so the engine is likely more suited to faster GPU's rather than wide ones.

Show me 1 example of game when rx6700 outperform higher amd models

 

[davis.anthony]

Show me 1 example of game when rx6700 outperform higher amd models

Show me another console running a wider, but lower clocked AMD GPU and I'll compare them for you.

 

[snc]

Show me another console running a wider but lower clocked AMD GPU and I'll compare them for you.

amd 6700xt vs 6800xt, your welcome

 

[function]

Just from eyeballing it it looks like the Series X looks a decent bit higher resolution in than the PS5 in that screen.. judging from the steps in the car window frame on the left.

Assuming that both systems are at their minimum resolutions there (both are dropping frames) then according to DF that would be 1152p for SX and 1008p on PS5. That would be about 31% higher resolution for Series X.

If frame rate scales roughly linearly with pixel workload between these two resolutions, then that's enough to put the SX about where the PS5 is, even ignoring a slightly higher LOD.

It's bizarre that SX is being made to run higher resolutions (and higher LOD) at stress points, but perhaps it's different folks responsible for the final configuration of SX and PS5 versions.

In the preview of the Phantom Liberty expansion both games had fixed resolution and were constantly dropping frames, and SX was clearly ahead of PS5 in frame rate.