Digital Foundry Article Technical Discussion [2020]

[Deleted member 11852]

well, I think it's just up to the company if it's in their DNA to do stuff like this. MS did it for XBO and it was completely inferior to PS4. You can still showcase and talk about innovation even if you don't have the most power.

Sony used to present at Hot Chips when their consoles were mostly custom Sony hardware. Since PS3 and the shift to using commoditized hardware, they've stopped. I figured this was because IBM, AMD and Nvidia filled that role and Sony's customisations are fairly minor in the grand scheme of things. It feels like trying to pass off somebody else's masterful cake as yours when all you did was badly pipe HARPY BIRTDAY on the top with icing!

Where Sony have made an engineering change, liked extended ACE queues in PS4 and the ID buffer in PS4 Pro, they've just explained it.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Slowly getting the feeling Sony will never deep dive these things like MS has and instead just let the rumour Mill churn for an eternity.
I hope that does not happen for my sanity!

I thought they had. It was called "Road to PS5" on YT. You know, the one with 16M views.

 

[AzBat]

I thought they had. It was called "Road to PS5" on YT. You know, the one with 16M views.

"Most of its time at or near"

Not sure you can call that a deep dive when they obfuscate the one metric that could have ended all the speculation.

Tommy McClain

 

[iroboto]

I thought they had. It was called "Road to PS5" on YT. You know, the one with 16M views.

If Road to PS5 is considered a deep dive; the XSX hot chips presentation was a colonoscopy

 

[Deleted member 11852]

"Most of its time at or near" Not sure you can call that a deep dive when they obfuscate the one metric that could have ended all the speculation

It's deep in that still nobody knows what it actually means!

 

[Xbat]

Deep dive into what though? It's basically AMD hardware and the people that need to know like game devs will know all they need with the dev kits and tools they will have access to.

It's not like Sony have designed a chip and are trying to sell it to other vendors.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Well, Cerny did say they are going to have a breakdown session sometime. Not sure what you guys want. Leaks it seems. And that isn't going to happen unless Sony wants.

Maybe wait for someone to do an actual breakdown once the console is released i.e. Nov/Dec 2020. I am sure someone will.

 

[BRiT]

Not sure what you guys want.

I want that promised TearDown! I'm pretty sure you know that. I'm pretty sure this entire forum knows that too.

 

[Lalaland]

If we don't get it by launch I nominate Someone Else TM to buy a new console, rip it apart and get a dieshot, bonus points if they get images of the Dark Silicon

 

[Xbat]

I want that promised TearDown! I'm pretty sure you know that. I'm pretty sure this entire forum knows that too.

Cerny gave us all blue balls with that comment mentioning us being happy when they show us the tear down.

That was in March wasn't it?

 

[Deleted member 11852]

Cerny gave us all blue balls with that comment mentioning us being happy when they show us the tear down. That was in March wasn't it?

"quite happy".

 

[Shortbread]

Content sponsored by Nvidia. In this episode of DF Retro, John Linneman returns to the mid-90s and the arrival of the 3D accelerator boards that would revolutionise gaming as we know it. These days, we buy a new GPU, we play and play and it works, but things were very, very different back in the day...

 

[AzBat]

Does it have the Paradise Tasmania 3D card in it?

Tommy McClain

 

[Deleted member 11852]

Nvidia Riva128 for the win! My first PC and my first 3D chip. And all to run Half-Life because I bought a whole damn PC to play Half-Life. I realised by this time, Commodore and the Amiga definitely weren't coming back.

 

[Esrever]

MS did it for XBO and it was completely inferior to PS4.

And look what happened to the XB1.. XD

 

[AzBat]

Does it have the Paradise Tasmania 3D card in it?

Tommy McClain

Nope. Other than that it wasn't too bad. Neglected the 3D Blaster VLB & Rendition's effect on the industry. Their first card was an amazing value with great quality & performance. Had it were not for the drop in DRAM prices I don't think 3Dfx would have did as well with the Voodoo & Voodoo 2. Another thing glossed over was that the Voodooo cards were an add-on. You still needed a 2D card & it used pass-through cables to work. People overlooked that because of gaming support & performance, but it was expensive for the time.

Tommy McClain

 

[Arwin]

For a while there the 3Dfx was a platform almost of itself, and incredibly well supported.

 

[London Geezer]

For a while there the 3Dfx was a platform almost of itself, and incredibly well supported.

My very first 3D card was a fabulous 3Dfx card with 6MB of memory, which at the time was 'insane'. It literally transformed my PC - which if I remember correctly was a 166MHz Pentium? I think? Oh the memories!!

 

[Karamazov]

My first card was an ATI 3D Rage 2, wtih texture filtering !

 

[London Geezer]

Kids these days be like "What's a MHz?"