Digital Foundry Article Technical Discussion [2020]
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Well alone. Just like Sony should have.
DuckThor Evil
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Playstation 3 had price parity with the 360 within a year after its launch in NA and within 7 months in Europe. The head start on the market that the 360 had is a better argument imo. 360 also had better 3rd party game versions in general and more robust online services. Brand power, 1st party games and Blu-ray worked in favour of PS3. Regardless of how much each mattered there was a huge swing in marketshare from the previous gen.
Xbox one lost the 3rd party advantage. It too was expensive, but had price parity very soon after launch, but got hammered in the market. Early impressions matter and positives are better than negatives :smile:
We aren't dealing in absolutes here or even the technical prowess of the consoles but the optics on social media during year 1-3 that maybe has an influence.
I'm not saying you wrong just that I think these things have an impact these days, I don't necessarily like it. Social media seems to bring out a mob mentality.
ChuckeRearmed
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I am more curious why it is allowed to release the games in such half baked state.
I know that the Internet and patches are easily accessible these days, but c'mon at least some quality control. (Oof, in the past if the game ran bad, you had no choice but to deal with it...) I wonder if the developers have the tools similar to DF so they can check the performance without DF telling them what are the issues
I know that the Internet and patches are easily accessible these days, but c'mon at least some quality control. (Oof, in the past if the game ran bad, you had no choice but to deal with it...) I wonder if the developers have the tools similar to DF so they can check the performance without DF telling them what are the issues
Head start, better price, better versions of 3rd party games, far more exclusives, better online, achievements and brand loyalty (US product in largest market) - so many reasons the X360 did ok. Still, with all that in mind WW PS3 sold more launches aligned.
You need to share which games are so bad you consider them half baked and what makes them half baked.
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360 was sucess, PS3 almost put Sony 2 feet under. I think from this gen there will be lot less focus on units sold as games start to widen their horizons with cloud streaming and services, it will all be about revenue.
Is that the same as half baked? I bet you most people will not notice and DF says that in 120fps mode, due to VRR the better play experience is on XSX.
Definition of half-baked
1a: poorly developed or carried out
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/half-baked
ChuckeRearmed
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Dirt 5 is a recent example (I mean c'mon it is pretty obvious that for XSX they either used Xbox One profiles or something similar. Outer Worlds I recall had the similar issue - it seems having a lot of consoles creates some trouble). Or Watch Dogs where game saves might reset you progress; quests in Valhalla that prevent the main story progression. Also fall in textures...And not to mention that ancient evil aka Screen Tearing that has its second coming...
I am afraid of the future Bethesda's games, because they had all these bugs from the very beginning
Can't imagine what they can achieve this time. At least with MS QA it might be better but who knows.
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I couldn't find any links to support this. Both Sony and Microsoft experiments with super cheap low-end consoles and maybe there was a bundle/sale where this was a thing?
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ChuckeRearmed
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Whoa, that resolution mode. What is happening there? Dropping as low as ~30 fps
AbsoluteBeginner
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Nice, but yet another new generation of hardware where:
- Weapons still clip through the character/clothing (@London Geezer ).
- Environments are mostly static (those immutable coin mountains, ugh).
- Character attacks break the ground... but eventually the ground stays intact and the debris magically disappear after a few seconds.
Nothing feels next gen anymore, bar the graphics (and then not all graphics feel that next gen either). But yeah, I guess some developers are working on other titles that will really wow us on other things rather than just the expected graphical upgrades.
PS5 seems close to 5700XT in raw performance it seems? The more taxing charistics of this game could be due to its designed as a next gen title, its not on PS4/OneS etc.
Just wait some years
Just wait some years
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