Current Generation Games Analysis Technical Discussion [2023] [XBSX|S, PS5, PC]
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davis.anthony
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Techpowerup put it around ~3x at native 4k.
Yea it there are limits to everything.
davis.anthony
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It's a bug with the game, it apparently ships with a bad version of Oodle decompression that causes it to take 1 hour.
Can you provide the link to the performance summary you are using and point out the GPU you are using as the PS5 representative because I arrived at a different number.
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Using the 3060 or the 5700xt we have a 4090 at 3.75x.
Flappy Pannus
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ok if that's actually true than there is an easy fix.
It's around 3.5x assuming the PS5 is on the level of a 3060/2070S.
DavidGraham
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Yep, remember the GPU of the PS5 has lower RT performance than even the 2060/2060 Super, so 4090 is going to be at least 7x faster, and even more than that with stuff like SER and OMM in Path Tracing.
DavidGraham
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Results are in, the 4090 achieves 83 fps at 4K (4.6X the 3060 which achieves just 18fps).
4090: 83
4080: 62
7900XTX: 55
4070Ti: 46
6900XT: 38
3080Ti: 37
2080Ti: 25
Not too bad to be honest (PS5 achieves 35fps at 4K native probably using less than PC's Ultra settings).
Game is hungry for memory though, easily using 13GB of VRAM at 4K and 10GB at 1080p. It also has the VRAM bug where the game ignores a portion of the VRAM, the 3070 only uses 7.2GB of it's 8GB. The game also uses 17GB of RAM if your GPU is 10GB or more, if it's below 10GB, then RAM usage goes up to 25GB! As the game uses more RAM in place of the VRAM!!
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4090: 83
4080: 62
7900XTX: 55
4070Ti: 46
6900XT: 38
3080Ti: 37
2080Ti: 25
Not too bad to be honest (PS5 achieves 35fps at 4K native probably using less than PC's Ultra settings).
Game is hungry for memory though, easily using 13GB of VRAM at 4K and 10GB at 1080p. It also has the VRAM bug where the game ignores a portion of the VRAM, the 3070 only uses 7.2GB of it's 8GB. The game also uses 17GB of RAM if your GPU is 10GB or more, if it's below 10GB, then RAM usage goes up to 25GB! As the game uses more RAM in place of the VRAM!!
The Last of Us Part I тест GPU/CPU | Action / FPS / TPS | TEST GPU
Мы провели тестирование The Last of Us Part I на максимальных настройках графики с использованием видеокарт семейства GEFORCE RTX и RADEON RX. Результаты тестирования оставили не самые приятные впечатления, как о самом худшем порте Sony на ПК...
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Going from Ultra to High seemingly improves performance by around 25%. Assuming the PS5 uses the High preset, it would be 12% faster than a 2080 Ti which is horrible when the 2080 Ti is generally 40-50% faster. A GPU as strong as the 4090 should be running this at 4K/100fps+ unless the Ultra preset is incredibly taxing compared to the settings the PS5 uses.Results are in, the 4090 achieves 83 fps at 4K (4.6X the 3060 which achieves just 18fps).
4090: 83
4080: 62
7900XTX: 55
4070Ti: 46
6900XT: 38
3080Ti: 37
2080Ti: 25
Not too bad to be honest (PS5 achieves 35fps at 4K native probably using less than PC's Ultra settings).
Game is hungry for memory though, easily using 13GB of VRAM at 4K and 10GB at 1080p. It also has the VRAM bug where the game ignores a portion of the VRAM, the 3070 only uses 7.2GB of it's 8GB. The game also uses 17GB of RAM if your GPU is 10GB or more, if it's below 10GB, then RAM usage goes up to 25GB! As the game uses more RAM in place of the VRAM!!
The Last of Us Part I тест GPU/CPU | Action / FPS / TPS | TEST GPU
Мы провели тестирование The Last of Us Part I на максимальных настройках графики с использованием видеокарт семейства GEFORCE RTX и RADEON RX. Результаты тестирования оставили не самые приятные впечатления, как о самом худшем порте Sony на ПК...
Flappy Pannus
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Here's a 7900XTX needing FSR to maintain 60fps at 4k, so looks like Sony's chart was pretty much bang-on this regard at least.
That GPU is about 3x as fast as the PS5's GPU.
It’s become the norm now that DX12 is the standard unfortunately. PC optimization in most titles has tanked.
Wasn't the case for Returnal.
If you want to play tlou with exclusively returnal's rendering feature set I'm sure they could have made that, but it would have looked nothing like the ps5 version.
This stuff is getting so old. This is not at all how it works. The games getting ported are more technically complex.
Flappy Pannus
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What does this even mean? What advanced rendering feature set is TLOU:RM employing over Returnal?
The narrative of "DX12 = bad optimization" in titles the past year has been driven - not solely, but primarily - by developers not dealing with shader compilation until runtime. That is absolutely a platform optimization issue, hell it's one of the most basic 'issues' of a platform with hardware abstraction. Again, it's not the only problem with DX12 titles, but it's the major one. If all DX12 games shipped with methods to precompile shaders from the outset, the PC port landscape would look decidedly different at this point.
In this particular case, thankfully it's not the main problem (albeit we'll see if that Oodle dll replacement is actually beneficial in terms of at least precompile time). I'm not convinced the large disparity we're seeing right now can be largely left at the feet of focused optimization magic though. Of course it plays a part, but when you're seeing a card like the 7900XTX not being able to even double the PS5's performance, I think other factors - such as a rushed port to take advantage of the TV series - may also be to blame.
I mean really, look at that link above. Yes, it's Ultra settings, but it's getting into the 70's in the opening area, at the same 1440p res as the PS5 (and it's not CPU limited, check the GPU usage). The PS5 has an unlocked mode for TLOU:RM which as I understand it, is still 1440p, just unlocked. There are some rare scenes that it can dip below 60fps, but in many action scenes with it unlocked, it can actually hit 70-90 fps too. So taken into account the ~25% perf hit Ultra mode has over High, and the performance disparity between the 7900XT and XTX, this means that a 7900XT running on high...may end up being slightly faster than the PS5, if that. That's just nuts.
We'll see what they can do with patches in the coming weeks.
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You made the claim that multiplatform games are heavily compromised, implying that exclusives are much harder to run on an equivalent PC. I’m saying that it isn’t the case with Returnal. It runs incredibly well on a modest PC, unlike TLOU Part 1.
What is so complex about this title that a 3080 barely outperforms a PS5?
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