Current Generation Games Analysis Technical Discussion [2020-2021] [XBSX|S, PS5, PC]

Apart from hitching during loading, I can't see how the PS5 would reasonably drop frames. The multiplier from Pro to PS5 is >2x the performance, even using GCN instructions. The BC games that I've seen tested with unlocked framerates (and not using the 18CU BC setup) when the PRO drops below 30fps, the PS5 is still hitting 60. I do think the BC multiplier favours the PS5, alternatively XSX is built for BC so the software has properly allowances for next gen modes, resolutions, etc.

Regardless, I don't think the BC modes on this game are in any way representative of the performance of either machine.

 

I'd take the developers word of the lowest range being 1080p over anyone else's.

 

He said approximately 1008p. With TAA it can be quite hard to pixel count.

 

That's really a strange loading time. Did he play it from an HDD? Should be so long. The Series X and S show, what the simple switch to an SSD brings (the high ssd speed is not really that relevant).

 

Do not understand these ps5 vs xbox next gen update comparisons. It's well known there are restrictions/limitations with ps5 next gen patches on ps4 skus -- "smart delivery" really has some benefit. says nothing about the machines unless you're paying $600 to play a last gen game slightly better. Just feels misleading to even do side by sides rather than just saying "xbox one game got a more significant update"

 

There's simply not that many next-gen games out there.

 

Does anybody know if dropping the output resolution to 1080p have performance benefits? Looks like everybody is testing 4k output so I have no idea how it works. PS4 Pro delivered better performance at 1080p but I didn't hear anything about the PS5.

 

Thats a peculiar time.

 

wow, just 1440p. I expected native 4k with such a game. But well, not all developers know how to optimize or want to waste time if the image quality already is good for them.
But I really can't see (I also played the game) why the game is limited to 1440p.

 

It's not a surprise. We have already seen another exclusive XBX game that could not simply run at 2x framerate on XSX with the same settings. Forza Horizon 4.

 

Yup. And it's not that new consoles aren't capable of running older games at higher resolutions and framerates but that those particular codebases were not designed with that in mind. When you're writing code, you make all sorts of engineering decisions based on the platform it's intended to run on. You generally don't have the luxury of speculating how your code might run on some arbitrary higher hardware target in future and whether you should engineer it differently. It's needs to work by noon on Thursday.

 

I believe Call of Sea uses RT shadows IIRC. They likely made a choice between resolution, framerate and RT. And went with RT. But I could be wrong, memory is a bit hazy on this title. It would be rough if they dropped all their ambitious goals.

 

Also, the FH4 treatment was not done by T10 or PG, so that explains the initial teething problems and some of the seemingly odd decisions made on the initial nextgen patch that had to be followed up.

 

Well, they announced the usage of RT (for whatever) but I really don't think that it is inside. After all, the game looks good (has it's own flair) but overall, it is strange that they took this route (after announcing 4k 60 & RT a while back).
If the game uses RT, than ok, it has a really high performance hit. But without I really don't know what they are doing in this game, but my old Vega56 had no problem with it (maxed out).
But as I wrote, it might just be that the developers can't or don't want to optimize it much more.

And yes, I know if the xbox one x runs it at 1440p with 30fps, making it 60 is just the easy route (as the GPU has around double the calculation power for the same task). After all it is just "another" next-gen patch for a BC game.

Strange about that game is, that it runs on PC without problem at 4k 60 even on "older" high end cards (as far as I remember). But well, if the code was optimized for the GCN GPU it might not suite the new GPU so well.

 

I'm sure they axed the RT I believe there was some intention to do it but I have my doubts.
A lot of marketing goes towards generating hype for a title, but this being a puzzler, I'm not sure if all that extra $$$ going towards RT etc and others makes a lot of sense. They likely ran out of budget just trying to program through COVID.

 

It's a good looking game and I finished it a couple weeks ago. Not too bothered by some people's obsession with 4k.