ATI to delay 80nm GPU migration?

Omg, you're all hammering my site!

To clear things up: that was an april fool's joke I made up to fool the readers of my ATi News & Discussion topic on one of the biggest Dutch tech forums. I had no idea it would spread out like that.

Even Hardspell & EB posted it on their site. :D Sorry for all the confusion peeps.
 
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CJ said:
Omg, you're all hammering my site!

To clear things up: that was an april fool's joke I made up to fool the readers of my ATi News & Discussion topic on one of the biggest Dutch tech forums. I had no idea it would spread out like that.

Even Hardspell & EB posted it on their site. :D Sorry for all the confusion peeps.
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There you are, CJ :D You're a great wizard, your spell is bounced all over the places :p
Anyway, it is one of the Apirl's fool day great excitement.
 
I just mixed up some random quotes taken from the ATi site. Like "Unite and Dominate - Combined Multi-GPU power that soars into a new dimension of graphics capability" taken from their CrossFire mini-site and obviously the whole "visual realism part" that's been used by ATi several times (and also by nV and Matrox).

Anyway, it's funny to see that, despite the spelling, it fooled so many people incl:
- Hardspell
- EB
- Rage3D
- NV News
- PCPop
- Guru3D
- TechPowerup
- HarTware.net
- Radeon Italia
- Hardwareluxx
I wonder what Jen Sun was thinking when he did his daily rounds around the forums and saw that slide. ;-)

I'm surprised L'Inq didn't post this yet. :p

Edit: Added PcPop & Guru3D & Techpowerup to the list of victims. This is getting ridiculous. lol.
 
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Haha, nice one. You missed the opportunity to make them feel even more stupid though. Like you should have told them to go somewhere or something before they realized they were being fooled. :)
 
Xbit actually makes more sense from a nomenclature standpoint than previous speculation.

RV570 is cutdown R580 (12-1-3-2 with 256-bit bus) = X1900GTO.

RV560 (8-1-3-2) with 128-bit bus = X1700 series.

So would R580+ be a respin of R580 for higher core clock, or could they reach 700MHz+ just with binned cores?
 
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I have been summoned by Kemosabe, wearing my "will speculate on graphics for food" sign.

Fall refresh tho? Darn. Tho that is consistent with ATI roadmaps from earlier in the year, that seemed to point at late summer for RV560.

X1900GTO is the really interesting part, in that they'd do a separate ASIC for a tweener. I suppose at that price point they didn't feel good about how many good R580+ they'd have to kick into that pot to make the volume. Tho it'll be interesting to see if some neutered R580+ do end up under some of those heatsinks. "Configurability", doncha know --the big buzzword at fashionable IHVs everywhere right now.

Man, that's a lot of ASICs tho. 6 active (with RV516 & RV536)? They just segmented into 4 segments recently and they're going for six now?

And what happened to "moving up our stack over the course of Spring"? Rickie, you have some 'splaining to do!

I really dislike "R580+" as a name, not that anyone asked!

Edit: A new high-end ASIC in September tho, prolly really does mean kiss off R6x0 for 2006, damn it.
 
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For the high-end market ATI is projected to release its code-named R580+ design, which will feature the same Radeon X1900 XTX chip, but now equipped with GDDR4 memory at higher clock-speeds compared to today’s GDDR3. The GPU’s memory controller will be reprogrammed to handle higher clock-speeds and the whole R580+ design will allow ATI to test the GDDR4 memory ahead of its broad deployment in the next-generations of products. The product may be approximately 15% faster compared to the current flagship offering from the company.
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15%? 15%?! Where's Jawed?! :oops:
 
So X1900GTO would take over from X1800XT against the 7900GT at $300. They're going to need core clocks upward of 650MHz to compensate for the castrated core (relative to R580), no?

Reedit: Bonne fête, digi. You are exactly one month older than moi. :smile:
 
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So X1900GTO would take over from X1800XT against the 7900GT at $300. They're going to need core clocks upward of 650MHz to compensate for the castrated core (relative to R580), no?

Edit: Bonne fête, geo. You are exactly one month older than moi. :smile:
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Thanks for the thot, but that was for Digi's 40th today. I'll edit to make that clearer. . .

And make a note that Kemosabe joins the Old Mens Club next month. :devilish:
 
geo said:
Man, that's a lot of ASICs tho. 6 active (with RV516 & RV536)? They just segmented into 4 segments recently and they're going for six now?
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I wonder if this lends credence to ATI's "yields are good" news and Jawed's "redundancy, redundancy" speculation. I'm still trying to reconcile ATI's yields with their availability (supply? or demand?) and The Inq's recent story about poor ATI yields relative to NV.

It'd be interesting if ATI is going for more redundancy per die to assure yields of full chips but require more ASICs to cover all market segments, whereas NV stays with fewer ASICs and bins partially defective chips to lower segments.
 
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gah, no wonder I feel so immature talking to you peeps. You're ancient!! :p Happy belated digi!
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Well, the impetuousness of youth has its advantages too. They make us old farts more patient so we don't just throttle you. Sometimes works, others not. :LOL: But then we're also usually fatter and slower too, so we can't chase you down anyway. ;)
 
kemosabe said:
Xbit actually makes more sense from a nomenclature standpoint than previous speculation.

RV570 is cutdown R580 (12-1-3-2 with 256-bit bus) = X1900GTO.

RV560 (8-1-3-2) with 128-bit bus = X1700 series.

So would R580+ be a respin of R580 for higher core clock, or could they reach 700MHz+ just with binned cores?
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RV570 isn't really "cutdown" R580 with those specs, since R580 is 16-1-3-1, that thing has double the z units
 
Agreed, that would be a slight difference in the architecture, although last I heard the double-pumped z stuff :)wink:) for RV570 was still somewhat speculative. Was hoping to get some confirmation from the usual cryptic sources.
 
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