The Xbox actually is making MS money
http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050127_191737.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...;u=/nm/20050127/bs_nm/tech_microsoft_earns_dc
And last but not least... MS financials
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The Xbox actually is making MS money
http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050127_191737.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...;u=/nm/20050127/bs_nm/tech_microsoft_earns_dc
Any way people spin this, it's still great news for MS. They lost $397 million in the same quarter last year. That's a huge turnaround.
And no, I don't expect positive profit to become commonplace in that division, but a fair amount of people's complaints just got shut up.
And no, I don't expect positive profit to become commonplace in that division, but a fair amount of people's complaints just got shut up.
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Well, I always said that Xbox would lose money in year 1-2, break even in year 3, and turn a profit in year 4-5. I was only off by a year. There's still a ways to go before they erase the $3 billion they've lost so far though
Johnny Awesome said:Well, I always said that Xbox would lose money in year 1-2, break even in year 3, and turn a profit in year 4-5. I was only off by a year. There's still a ways to go before they erase the $3 billion they've lost so far though
Huh? You need some help with your math.
For anyone who has actually bother to read them, these financial results are a disaster for MS.
Inane_Dork said:
Unless you know of some other multi-million seller game MS has ready for the rest of the year what will you be saying next quarter when the massive red ink returns...
And the quarter after that...
Will you be posting that all those people claiming this quarter's 'huge turnaround' 'just got shut up?'
Which part of record revenue and every segment bettering their profit is a disaster? You officially entered stark raving mad fanboy territory.Tuttle said:
The numbers speak for themselves: http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/FY05/earn_rel_q2_05.mspx
Tuttle has a "special" (hyper-negative) way of looking at things to do with Microsoft
I would guess that he is referring to such "small" profits even after the enourmous income from Halo 2, and the fact that it does little to offset their expenditure so far on the Xbox project. At least that is my best guess.
I would guess that he is referring to such "small" profits even after the enourmous income from Halo 2, and the fact that it does little to offset their expenditure so far on the Xbox project. At least that is my best guess.
Tuttle said:
I thought Inane_Dork already stated he did not expect a positive profit to become commonplace in that division?
As for the games, I dunno, here might be a good start to find some games that may top 1M. Conkers is a good bet to be a big seller; Forza may also if its quality lines up with its quantity. There seems to be more than a couple potential 1M sellers in there from others also. But that is besides the point, before looking at that I did not realize how nice the Xbox lineup looked for 2005. It really has some good games arriving this year. If consumers are happy and developers are happy then MS will be happy--because they are building bridges for the future. And whether MS's game division is profitable next quarter or the quarter after is sort of besides the point. MS has momentum going in the other direction. As a longtime observer of the industry I think that is pretty obvious.
I do not expect next quarter to be as positive. I actually do not expect MS's gaming division to be profitable for 2 quarters in a row until the 3rd year of Xenon. But I think some here are overly negative and only want to look at one aspect of the Xbox and draw all their conslusions from that. The market is MUCH more complicated than that, as are MS goals. A lot of MS losses related to the expensive Xbox hardware and the fact they had to rely on 3rd party support more than Sony and Nintendo. They are still building their 1st and 2nd party development studios but obviously have come a far away.
I see, when people disagree you have to resort to name calling :| This shows, at best, you are no better than the people you are trying to belittle. You may be 100% correct, but when you talk to people this way it ddoes nothing to progress the discussion but instead untracks the ssubject and evolves into a flaming thread full of trolls. Lets try to avoid that
GwymWeepa said:
You mean multi-million sellers from Microsoft Games Studio for each quarter, like Mario/Pokemon titles from Nintendo? One for Rare, one for Bungie, and...?
IMHO what Microsoft has to put emphasis on in the next-gen is how they can save in the hardware rather than how they can make a profit from the software. Needless to say these numbers clearly show it.