And last but not least... MS financials

[Ty]

Not as clear cut rogue like, but still strongly. I think something just by go online makes i do it. Netizens subconscious?

Huh?

 

[Fodder]

Huh?

When people go online, something snaps in their brain and they start ranting about how much whichever console they don't own sucks.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

It's not about being online. I remember people ranting about which computer was better Amiga, PC, ST, and before that, C64, Spectrum, BBC

People rant about everything...

 

[cthellis42]

Well you need to be online to share it, otherwise you're just making quick commentary with your friends. Even back in the 300 baud BBS days you were still technically "online"! Hehe...

Man, 300 baud... That brings back some memories.

 

[London Geezer]

Well you need to be online to share it, otherwise you're just making quick commentary with your friends. Even back in the 300 baud BBS days you were still technically "online"! Hehe...

Man, 300 baud... That brings back some memories.

Mate, the term Baud brings back memories...

 

[cthellis42]

Hey, most of the world is still 56k, you know. That is baud! They just don't call it that anymore.

 

[Magnum PI]

a baud = a symbol != a bit

with 300 bits/s modem, each bit is encoded in its own symbol.
with more modern kind of modulation like the one used for 56 kbits/s throughput, more than one bit is encoded in a single symbol, so the baudrate is different from the bitrate.

 

[Entropy]

Well you need to be online to share it, otherwise you're just making quick commentary with your friends. Even back in the 300 baud BBS days you were still technically "online"! Hehe...

Man, 300 baud... That brings back some memories.

Yup, you could spell-check text during transfer!

 

[cthellis42]

a baud = a symbol != a bit

with 300 bits/s modem, each bit is encoded in its own symbol.
with more modern kind of modulation like the one used for 56 kbits/s throughput, more than one bit is encoded in a single symbol, so the baudrate is different from the bitrate.

You're right, it's not bits but symbols, but considering we travelled up the baud gamut (300, 1200, 2400, 4800, 9600, 14400, 28800...) to where we are now--at which point people started using more precise terminology and culled the labelling--it means effectively the same thing to people who... you know... actually know what "baud" was.

We still have enough grief over the technical and marketing names of megabytes and kilobytes, so there's always some sway in these lands. I wasn't talking about it literally (hence the tonguey) but... you know... in that "spiritual" way you can sorta get from age-old computer use.

 

[Magnum PI]

read this i think it's much better said than by me:
http://howtos.linux.com/howtos/Modem-HOWTO-22.shtml

they explain that a 28800 bits/s modem is a 3200 bauds/modem as 9 bits are encoded in each baud.

 

[cthellis42]

We still climbed the "baud" terminology all the way up to the 57,600 (or perhaps more like 28,800) at which point the terminology become passé, people only referred to Kbps, and everything became staple. The underlying tech has almost always been transparent anyway, and the understanding not really necessary. We knew the marketing terms.

Considering everything is even MORE transparent, with people either having "modems" or "broadband"--with almost NO inkling of their functional data rates--THAT part is more confusing than ever before. And less important, to boot.