Anand has the details about r520,rv530,rv515

[Geo]

You're supposed to burn things AT the stake, not burn steaks.

So, then, kebobs you're saying?

 

[digitalwanderer]

So, then, kebobs you're saying?

Kebobs would work, damn it now I'm hungry!

 

[_xxx_]

Nothing would surprise me at this point. Perhaps RV530's performance is good enough that it would somewhat "upstage" the 16-pipe R520 and they prefer to launch it closer to R580?

ATI just made it all up, there is no such thing like R5xx. They've been joking all along. They'll only be making motherboards and TV-chips from now on...

 

[trinibwoy]

According to the Inq, they're launching AGP on the low-end next week as well - http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26471

 

[CJ]

R480 = PEG / R481 = AGP
R520 = PEG / R521 = PEG(?)

Not afaik. In the case of the R(V)5x0 series, all the 1 versions are UMC versions. So R521 is UMCs R520. RV516 is UMCs version of TSMCs RV515 etc.

 

[kemosabe]

According to the Inq, they're launching AGP on the low-end next week as well - http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26471

Which doesn't make much sense to me either. You'd think that any remaining demand for AGP would be in the performance/high end retail segments. What OEM is going to order an AGP X1300?

 

[trinibwoy]

Which doesn't make much sense to me either. You'd think that any remaining demand for AGP would be in the performance/high end retail segments. What OEM is going to order an AGP X1300?

True.

 

[KimB]

Which doesn't make much sense to me either. You'd think that any remaining demand for AGP would be in the performance/high end retail segments. What OEM is going to order an AGP X1300?

Exactly. So I'm going to bet that Fuad is speaking out of his ass once again. Hell, he's been on every side of every rumor so far, why not PCIe vs. AGP?

 

[Powderkeg]

Which doesn't make much sense to me either. You'd think that any remaining demand for AGP would be in the performance/high end retail segments. What OEM is going to order an AGP X1300?

There is not much of a demand in the OEM market, but there is a significant demant in the retail market where a lot of people are upgrading older PC's, and by older, I mean 1 year old or more.

Actually, Dell didn't switch to standard PCIe support unitl about 4 months ago. We got several brand new workstations here last may that were all AGP equipped, and these were definitely low end workstations.

 

[kemosabe]

Well considering the inventory of R430/480 chips that ATI needs to unload, you'd think they'd be encouraging those AGP upgraders to buy an X800XL or X800GTO, which will be priced for liquidation by the time R5XX boards are shipping. I don't think somebody buying an AGP X1300 is going to be terribly concerned about SM3.0 support. As for the low-end workstation market, I think it's far too small to warrant an AGP SKU and the accompanying inventory headaches.

 

[caboosemoose]

Which doesn't make much sense to me either. You'd think that any remaining demand for AGP would be in the performance/high end retail segments. What OEM is going to order an AGP X1300?

The sort of OEM that is buying up old AGP mobo stock, adding a shitty AGP card with tons of useless low-clocked video memory and pitching the system as high performance. For that purpose, an X1300 AGP would be ideal as it's NEXT GEN TECH WOW ETC.

 

[Pete]

Which doesn't make much sense to me either. You'd think that any remaining demand for AGP would be in the performance/high end retail segments. What OEM is going to order an AGP X1300?

I dunno, seems to me there'd be a lot more now-middling midrange P4 and AXP AGP systems out there than s754/939 A64 systems, with the older ones perhaps more likely to upgrade the video card first.

Makes sense that, as cb said, there's a corner-cutter buying up unwanted AGP stock and gussying it up with a next-gen card.

 

[Tim]

Just compare these 4pp/16pp 3DMark05 scores...

x1300 (4pp) = 2900 / x1800xl (16pp) = 7000 ... ratio = 1 : 2,4

x800ve (4pp) @540/550 = 2790 / x850xt-pe (16pp) @540/560 = 6460 ... ratio = 1 : 2,3

So XL's score could be real.

Remember the clock speeds the x1300LE is clocked at 450Mhz and the x1800xl 550Mhz.

 

[no-X]

Remember the clock speeds the x1300LE is clocked at 450Mhz and the x1800xl 550Mhz.

Are you sure, that the tested MSI card was reference X1300LE with 450MHz core?

 

[DegustatoR]

There is no X1300LE according to what i know. Just Pro, vanilla and HyperMemory.

 

[thatdude90210]

This roadmap shows RV515 LE and RV515 PRO.

 

[Geo]

Oooh, new meat! We haven't seen that one before, have we?

Where's R520Pro?

I like that "ultra-high quality" remark next to "display" (and not just "video") as it implies some more IQ goodies to come beyond the "show a little ankle, Love" bits we got in Avivo. . .

 

[Jawed]

Nor 520LE.

I think that there may be confusion between ASICs and boards.

Jawed

 

[Geo]

Ish, which makes 520xl a separate ASIC. Which I don't want to admit to yet.

Tho also note that the RV515 slide specifically says "ASIC" where the other two don't, for whatever that is worth. . .

 

[Sunrise]

There is no X1300LE according to what i know. Just Pro, vanilla and HyperMemory.

There is no vanilla anymore.