http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/eu-prices-listed-amd-ryzen-7-1800x-to-cost-628-eur.htmlYou will notice two SKU codes per Ryzen CPU, likely with and withouth CPU cooler. As expected AMD is to launch only the 8-core parts first, there are no entries found on Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 3.
Also it seems AMD has dropped the Ryzen R7 identifier to just Ryzen 7.
centralpoint.be (they have now taken down the listing) also shows that the SKUs listed below should be in stock on February 28th.
Model | SKU | Price | 21% VAT
AMD: Ryzen 7 1700 3.7GHZ 8 CORE 65W (YD1700BBM88AE) 319 386
AMD: Ryzen 7 1700 3.7GHZ 8 CORE 65W (YD1700BBAEMPK) 319 386
AMD: Ryzen 7 1700X 3.8GHz 8 CORE (YD170XBCM88AE) 389 471
AMD: Ryzen 7 1700X 3.8GHz 8 CORE (YD170XBCAEMPK) 409 495
AMD: Ryzen 7 1800X 4.0GHZ 8 CORE (YD180XBCM88AE) 499 604
AMD: Ryzen 7 1800X 4.0GHZ 8 CORE (YD180XBCAEMPK) 519 628
Yes.Anyone knows if the supposed turbo core speed for the leaked specs is for 1, 4, 8 or maybe a dynamic mix?
which benchmarks? again be specific so far as i know there isn't a single benchmark where Zen looks bad, CPC 3.15ghz tests, the AMD Demo's even the stuff like Passmark look good if you understand what you are looking at.
They all stand no chance against current Intel line-up. None of these products are desirable."Budget choice" models already exist. AMD has plenty of existing FX, A8 and A10 models in that price range.
You have got to be kidding, not only it's worse in every possible way: performance, power consumption, heat, efficiency, outdated dead platform; it's also more expensive.Example: 4.2 GHz Quad 79.90$: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113326&cm_re=amd_fx-_-19-113-326-_-Product
So don't look at these dumb graph's, go look at the raw scores (anyone can) in the app. Then look at the config of that Zen host note that it has DDR4 2400 17-17-17 memory ( terrible) then look at the workloads that are most effected by crap slow memory. Shock horror they are physics and prime numbers sub tests. On my machine (ivb@4.3) going from 13ns to 9-10ns see's a big increase in the performance of both of those benchmarks, Zen is running in that benchmark with memory access speed of 14ns. So if i get a 76% increase in Physics test and a 74% increase in the prime numbers test going from 13ns to 9ns what do you think Zen will get going from crap memory to middle of the road DDR4 ( say 3200 16-16-16 (10ns)) memory? If it scales like my ivb then its 1263 and 64.http://www.pcgamer.com/new-amd-ryzen-details-and-pricing-leaks/
Results are incredibly inconsistent, it's very workload specific, plus, i'm talking about real-world performance(since that matters the most to most consumers), which we don't really know about yet, but it likely will only be worse than bench's avg.
FX to this day scores high, even very high, in some benchmarks, before its release it was also looking better than Sandy Bridge, but it's not even as good as trade-off, is it? AMD CPUs have some really low lows, compared to Intel's, it's definitely not going away completely with Zen, and market share is not helping it.
They all stand no chance against current Intel line-up. None of these products are desirable.
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Tell me about it, still on a 3GHz Core 2 Duo here…Looks good I might be in for one during the summer. 8 core 16 threads would be a nice upgrade
Wow... upgrade often?Tell me about it, still on a 3GHz Core 2 Duo here…
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Wow... upgrade often?
79.90$ AMD FX-4350 versus Skylake i3 6100 (dual core, 3.7 GHz with hyperthreading):You have got to be kidding, not only it's worse in every possible way: performance, power consumption, heat, efficiency, outdated dead platform; it's also more expensive.
I would prefer G4560 over ANY current AMD cpu right now, and i am sure i'm in vast majority, their current products are not competitive in the slightest, and it would be even cheaper to switch to Zen from Pentium(since you would have DRR4 already).
Hopefully AMD is able clock their small quad core dies higher. People have been complaining that Intel no more makes 95W+ desktop quad cores. Desktop CPUs could have higher TDP with no problem. Nobody cares about +30W on desktop CPU as modern GPUs are taking 200W+. Servers and laptops are obviously a completely different matter.I imagine that if and when AMD makes a "real" quad-core, i.e. a specific die with only 4 cores present, very affordable Ryzens would be doable, perhaps with half the normal amount of L3 per CCX.
Incidentally, we have yet to hear anything about that, but I wonder whether AMD intends to release 45W SKUs. Based on the rumored clock speeds for the 95W, 8-core SKUs, I think AMD should be able to come up with some pretty compelling stuff. The small form factor crowd might really like it, especially since the southbridge is optional, which enables really tiny motherboards. But that would make more sense with APUs.
Hopefully AMD is able clock their small quad core dies higher. People have been complaining that Intel no more makes 95W+ desktop quad cores. Desktop CPUs could have higher TDP with no problem. Nobody cares about +30W on desktop CPU as modern GPUs are taking 200W+. Servers and laptops are obviously a completely different matter.
I imagine that if and when AMD makes a "real" quad-core, i.e. a specific die with only 4 cores present, very affordable Ryzens would be doable, perhaps with half the normal amount of L3 per CCX.
Incidentally, we have yet to hear anything about that, but I wonder whether AMD intends to release 45W SKUs. Based on the rumored clock speeds for the 95W, 8-core SKUs, I think AMD should be able to come up with some pretty compelling stuff. The small form factor crowd might really like it, especially since the southbridge is optional, which enables really tiny motherboards. But that would make more sense with APUs.
Intel's K-series are still 91W+ TDPHopefully AMD is able clock their small quad core dies higher. People have been complaining that Intel no more makes 95W+ desktop quad cores. Desktop CPUs could have higher TDP with no problem. Nobody cares about +30W on desktop CPU as modern GPUs are taking 200W+. Servers and laptops are obviously a completely different matter.
There are Xeons based on Broadwell EP that are cut down to 4 cores with a 140W TDP. Single-core turbo can get to 4 GHz.Hopefully AMD is able clock their small quad core dies higher. People have been complaining that Intel no more makes 95W+ desktop quad cores. Desktop CPUs could have higher TDP with no problem. Nobody cares about +30W on desktop CPU as modern GPUs are taking 200W+. Servers and laptops are obviously a completely different matter.
I for one think Raven Ridge is a much more exciting product than all the CPU-only products coming in two weeks, but I understand AMD's need to strike at the high-end.
Raven Ridge in raw CPU performance is probably going to stand between the higher-end i3 and i5, so they might get mediocre reviews despite the iGPU being on a whole different level.