AMD: RDNA 3 Speculation, Rumours and Discussion

[Bondrewd]

AMD may deem other areas more important.

Oh no, they acutely know their competitive positioning.
Raw PPA goes first undeniably (the thing will power the highest volume client AMD APU ever made), but FF advancements go hand-in-hand with the rest, too, see OREO.

 

[nutball]

Ah, the return of the man child with his deflective and completely ridiculous attitude of technical discussion.

Enough with the throwing of black kettles in greenhouses. The pair of you are both transparent Vendor Preference Enthusiasts. It's boring.

 

[trinibwoy]

ROFL @ Vendor Preference Enthusiast

 

[BRiT]

This is not a thread about market share.

 

[TESKATLIPOKA]

Oh no, they acutely know their competitive positioning.
Raw PPA goes first undeniably (the thing will power the highest volume client AMD APU ever made), but FF advancements go hand-in-hand with the rest, too, see OREO.

So Phoenix (Point) will have way better availability than Rembrandt? I hope so, because I am kinda interested in It.

 

[Bondrewd]

So Phoenix (Point) will have way better availability than Rembrandt?

Both availability and design count, particularly for commercial!
Those little unbelieving shits got finally converted.

And yes, it's a great, great part.
Best AMD APU ever made.

 

[yuri]

Both availability and design count, particularly for commercial!
Those little unbelieving shits got finally converted.

And yes, it's a great, great part.
Best AMD APU ever made.

Every single new gen APU since Renoir has been "the greatest APU" - Renoir, Cezanne, and even Rembrandt are super competitive. Yet the availability of those gens has been horrible.

AMD's January release is cool and all but can you actually buy it in a sensible notebook? Nope

 

[Bondrewd]

Yet the availability of those gens has been horrible.

Oh come on, CZN and RMB-H availability is more than fine.
Phoenix is a whole different story tho.

 

[Jawed]

The messaging looks to be gearing up as: "desktop doesn't matter, this is how we take mobile."

 

[DegustatoR]

I wouldn't pay much attention to that messenger tbh.

 

[Bondrewd]

The messaging looks to be gearing up as: "desktop doesn't matter, this is how we take mobile."

Yea, same as what's happened with Ryzen, really.

DT revenue share flat or down, mobile share way up.

 

[troyan]

Are people believing the N33 specs? A 200mm^2 6nm die with 4096 cores and 128bit with 32mb IF cache and yet AMD is using the 5nm process to produce a 200mm^2 7680 core chiplet?! That doesnt make any sense.

 

[Bondrewd]

That doesnt make any sense.

Well no one told you AMD engineering was sane.

Are people believing the N33 specs?

They're 200% correct.
N33 is almost RV770 reborn.
Almost.

 

[TESKATLIPOKA]

They're 200% correct.
N33 is almost RV770 reborn.
Almost.

N33 -> 16WGP, 4096 Shaders, 128 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 32MB IC, 128bit GDDR6?
BTW In the past you said N33 has 5120 shaders as N21. Link

 

[Bondrewd]

N33 -> 16WGP, 4096 Shaders, 128 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 32MB IC, 128bit GDDR6?

Yea.

BTW In the past you said N33 has 5120 shaders as N21

Yea, that turned out to be wrong, but all I know is ballpark perf targets.
Config details are sealed behind seven seals.

Juicy knows them because he's somewhere deep inside AMD's supply chain.

 

[madhatter]

Yea, that turned out to be wrong, but all I know is ballpark perf targets.

And the target is 6900XT level?

 

[Seanspeed]

Yea, that turned out to be wrong, but all I know is ballpark perf targets.
Config details are sealed behind seven seals.

If you dont know the details, how do you know this guy's information is correct?

 

[Bondrewd]

And the target is 6900XT level?

As close as they can get there at 1080p (or 1440p, it might handle that), yea.

If you dont know the details, how do you know this guy's information is correct?

Because he just knows, he's from my discord server and his track record is impeccable there.
(Oh and I'm pretty sure I've accidentally asked him to write that article. Teehee.)

 

[Jawed]

(from the RV770 era)

 

[gamervivek]

While 4870/4850 were good designs, AMD would've been even better off with a bigger chip that would have give them the top-dog status for couple of years. Having the fastest cards during the 48-58 series would've gained them a lot of mindshare.

So hopefully the earlier rumors about two GCDs ultimately pan out, because while these small dies look great, they'd still end up second-best like Vega.