AMD Radeon RDNA2 Navi (RX 6500, 6600, 6700, 6800, 6900 XT)

The 3050 is overpriced but at least you can play the latest games:

https://www.pcgamer.com/dying-light-2-upscaling-prefer-fsr-over-dlss/

 

This argument doesn't make sense. You can buy RX 6600, get 30-35 % higher rasterisation performance, similar raytracing peformance and save $100-$150. You can buy RX 6600 XT for the price of RTX 3050 and get >50 % higher rasterisation prefromace + ~15 % higher raytracing performance. Why to compare RTX 3050 to RX 6500 XT?

Such comparision is like saying that GeForce RTX 3060 is a horrible product, because it doesn't perform well in 4k games while Radeon RX 6900 XT does. And comparision of RTX 3060 to RX 6900 XT is even more fair, because Radeon RX 6900 XT ($1599, NewEgg) is "only" twice more expensive than GeForce RTX 3060 ($798), while GeForce RTX 3050 ($599) is 2.2x more expensive than Radeon RX 6500 XT ($269).

 

Yes, it does. Maybe not on Newegg - I can't buy anything there.
And if you're talking about Newegg then 6600XT definitely doesn't cost the same as 3050 there either.
The most expensive (!) 3050 there is listed for $489.
The cheapest (!) 6600XT there is listed for $589.
So maybe stop spreading FUD again?

GT1030 has been available this whole time for about half the price of 6500XT. If "availability" is your only qualification of a "good product" (which is simply insane but okay) then 6500XT has also lost before it even launched.

 

Exactly. There are a few RTX 3050 brands on NewEgg whose price ($249) is lower than $269 (RX6500 XT) but are "temporarily sold out". In this case wouldn't it make sense to waitlist for the more price/performant gpu?

 

Such comparison show how people are choosing GPUs when all of them are grossly overpriced.
People are starting looking for options which a) will last you longer, even of they will cost even more and b) won't lose all their value once the pricing situation improves.
6500XT isn't really enough for 1080p "rasterization" gaming right now, and it will age like a potato meaning that you will sell it for about 1/10th of it's current price.
3050 is a much better choice despite costing more because you can in fact game on it now and for some time in the future. Thus it's a better option for a gamer presently.

Also - you still can't "buy RX 6600 XT for the price of RTX 3050". 6600 sure.
The easiest way of comparing 6000 and 30 cards in the current market is to move the 30 ones one position higher in their comparative MSRPs. So 3060 stands against 6600XT, 3060Ti against 6700XT, 3070(Ti) against 6800, etc. 3050 landing against 6600 isn't surprising in this situation, and the situation itself highlights how the market value these products in practice - this is in part due to mining of course where 30 series is just overall better but also in part due to their comparative gaming features.

 

With more supply the prices of the 3050 cards will come down. Here in Germany i can buy one for 419€ which is ~70€ less than a 6600.

The 6500XT is so bad that the demand for the 3050 will always be way better than it should be. You wont see anything near the MSRP because the performance difference is so huge that the market price will be >$100 over the 6500XT.

 

Where?
Cheapest I saw this morning during my earlier post and as of now ist 469.

 

*posts benchmarks full of fast enough results*
We can only hope the prices will drop that much, but cannot be sure of that.

If you are going to play the most demanding titles only I agree. But that is quite a niche.

 

*In games from 2018 or so* and all of them in lowest quality. We all buy new GPUs to play old games in lowest quality here, aren't we.

Is it? Most gamers I know buy new h/w to play the most demanding titles.
This is one of key issues with 6500XT - if you're not playing these titles then you likely already have a 1060 or 580 since around 2016 or so. No need for you to buy a 6500XT.

 

Notebooksbilliger: https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/in...2/eqsqid/7829d4dc-d32a-4764-ae7a-6f89ec383105

In a few weeks the supply should be so good that the 3050 cards are under $400 worldwide.

 

You pretty much summed this up pretty perfectly, this is a product that is pretty much undesirable, can barely run heavy old gen games, can't run current gen games whatsoever, and is completely featurless, worse yet it slows down on old systems. Thus, it's second hard market value is significantly weak.

 

That is just your bubble.

 

Good, bad... You can get one and it performs in line with its current price space. A 1030 is fine too if you don't want to spend $260 and would just be wasting all that extra performance afforded by the 6500xt.

 

People who use Ray tracing performance charts are hilarious and tryharding. Nobody buys a GPU based on it's raytracing performance... people buy a GPU for frames per second. Who buys a new video card to play at 49 frames...?

Your post illustrates how illogical and gaslighting you are, with absolutely no logical point.

Please, I quoted u the EXACT prices on newegg and you can not accept it. Again, TODAY... the same 6600xt is still selling for $589 and the RTX3050 is selling for $599! I have not found a single RTX3050 under $500. MSRP on the RTX3050 could be $99 & it wouldn't matter, when it is ONLY for sale at quoted prices... for 7 days in a row. So deal with reality and stop playing games with this community. It is right in front of your face.

And obviously you do not get hypocrisy here, that the 6500xt is still just $269... a vastly "better buy" than the +$300 more expensive RTX3050.

It's ok to be angry... we all are.

 

Nope, that is the main reason people upgrade their GPU for, to play games at good settings. Battlefield and Crysis used to be the main instigators for a mass upgrade.

 

I'm thinking we need another GPU launch so there's something else to talk about.

 

A wild guess its probably one of the most important features these days on gaming GPU's to look out for. Just about everything coming out has it, investing hundreds of dollars i'd not want to go without or with bad RT performance.

 

For such an undesirable and terrible product, it sure has drawn a lot of attention from the team green crowd Curious.

No one in this thread is praising the 6500 XT. But what alternatives do you suggest people buy for $250-300 retail?

 

It'd be crazy to buy a GPU today without considering its RT performance. RT performance is more or less just 'performance' in the majority or recent games.

 

No one in their right mind is expecting amazing ray tracing performance from a low end card.

Secondly, as demonstrated in the other thread, DL2 is a turd of an example for RT. It eats up a tonne of frames for a terrible return on IQ.