All purpose sales and sales rumors/anecdotes thread next gen+

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There's simply no way of know how many were in the channel. It's very possible that there were none.

I disagree that that's possible! I think the channel always has some in it, on trucks on the way to stores, at distribution centers, etc. That's a worldwide distribution channel, so it will be quite extensive!

I'd say minimum 4.4 PS4's shipped, for some reason my hunch is 4.9, too bad Sony wont solve these issues for us and come clean!

At least we can always compare XBO+x360 vs PS4+PS3 going forward. PS2 is out of the picture, confirmed by Sony, so that's nice. Going forward PS3/360 will become less and less relevant and the numbers will become closer to a straight PS4/XBO number too.

Microsoft sold just 5% less home consoles worldwide (7.8/7.4) in Oct-Dec, that with no presence in Japan, not too shabby. I expect that number should turn worse as PS4 should open more of a lead on XBO (until a price cut or we'll see about Titanfall) and prior gen falls off, but still.

The fact Sony had less PS4's in the channel should manifest itself in coming quarters as a bigger PS4 edge, even than the actual end user sales gap. Ship numbers are self correcting in the long haul but can give a misleading picture on any given quarter.

Also, I've noted in the past that for whatever reason Sony tends to ship more holiday PS3's in the calender 3rd Q than MS. It held true again this year, in Jul-Sep PS3 shipped 2m and X360 only 1.1 IIRC. So even if PS3 shipped substantially less in Q4, the 6 month number is likely close to equal, as you'd expect.
 
Ok none was an exaggeration. I really meant a negligible amount like <100k in the channel (as a possibility).

I think 4.3-4.4M would be a good guess.
 
For a launch period though, shipments will be some amount higher than sales. We'll just never know how much in this case.
Right, but if those shipments can't make into sales because they're onboard ships or clearing customs, i.e. more than three days from getting into sales channels, then why wait three days to announce sales?
 
Right, but if those shipments can't make into sales because they're onboard ships or clearing customs, i.e. more than three days from getting into sales channels, then why wait three days to announce sales?

Huh?

Not sure what you're getting at.

I guess you're agreeing there's some in the channel at any given time.
 

FOR REAL!!!!! Red alert in Redmond. Ms sold more X1 consoles at launch than they have any prior generation but that Amazon ranking drop just erases all that. Come on with all the doom n gloom. How about we let both consoles launch world wide and give them around a year of sales after that before we declare an emergency. We arent even out of the launch window for either system yet. :smile:
 
I heard that MS didn't sell any consoles and they're all in a landfill in New Mexico. In fact to save money, MS just delivered the finished products straight there fresh from the factory and cut out the retailers completely. :yep2:
 
I'd heard that if you open an XB1 you'll find a PS4 inside... They're just repackaging and putting their own software on top...
 
I'd heard that if you open an XB1 you'll find a PS4 inside... They're just repackaging and putting their own software on top...

Now it all makes sense, PS4 sold = 4.2M, XB1 sold = 3M and we all thought it was 7,2M total, but no its just 4.2M. Brilliant move by MS, the biggest next-gen console brand is now XB even though Sony sold 4.2M PS4.
 
I heard that MS didn't sell any consoles and they're all in a landfill in New Mexico. In fact to save money, MS just delivered the finished products straight there fresh from the factory and cut out the retailers completely. :yep2:

You're confusing the XB1 with the Surface tablets. LOL

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Huh?

Not sure what you're getting at.

I guess you're agreeing there's some in the channel at any given time.
No. What I'm suggesting is that Sony announced their sales figures on 28 December because at that point, there was no stock left in the distribution channels that would make it to retail and significantly affect that 4.2m announcement.

I'd be surprised if Sony are shipping on anything more regular than a week-to-week basis and a week is sure long enough for distribution channels to be exhausted if demand is high enough.
 
No. What I'm suggesting is that Sony announced their sales figures on 28 December because at that point, there was no stock left in the distribution channels that would make it to retail and significantly affect that 4.2m announcement.

I'd be surprised if Sony are shipping on anything more regular than a week-to-week basis and a week is sure long enough for distribution channels to be exhausted if demand is high enough.

I'd be surprised if they were only making shipments once a week. Especially when they are producing at more than one location.
 
FWIW, judging by online sales during December, it seemed like Sony made fewer but larger shipments compared to MS. I saw the big online retailers have no stock for weeks, and when they did have stock, it seemed like they had thousands of units available, which were gone within minutes or hours.
 
FWIW, judging by online sales during December, it seemed like Sony made fewer but larger shipments compared to MS. I saw the big online retailers have no stock for weeks, and when they did have stock, it seemed like they had thousands of units available, which were gone within minutes or hours.

I think it was a good strategy... When the shipment came, it was always a news and thread and tweets were posted and generated more hype then it could have by sending smaller shipments.

I think January & February results are going to tell us a lot about the future of PS4 & XBO
 
I heard that MS didn't sell any consoles and they're all in a landfill in New Mexico. In fact to save money, MS just delivered the finished products straight there fresh from the factory and cut out the retailers completely. :yep2:

Nah, they are at Costco blocking the aisle just passed the entrance.

The PS4 inside each X1 is better than any dGPU! Now we just MS to release the drivers and SDK to unlock it.
 
I'm also surprised it's still not readily available in the US yet. Almost half of the cities are sold out locally, too. All of them were in stock yesterday.

Amazon.co.uk sold out of all PS4 SKUs again, including the pre-order for the Infamous bundle.

Here in Canada, availability has always been terrible.
 
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