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Interesting note over at GAF... talk about Déjà vu (but flipped around).
Xbox 360 April 2007 (Second April) 174k
PS4 April 2015 (Second April) 174k
PS3 April 2008 (Second April) 187k
Xbox One April 2015 (Second April) 187k
Xbox 360 April 2007 (Second April) 174k
PS4 April 2015 (Second April) 174k
PS3 April 2008 (Second April) 187k
Xbox One April 2015 (Second April) 187k
Silent_Buddha
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Don't forget that Feb. 2014 was more supply constrained than Mar. 2014 for PS4 as well making YoY comparisons look better for Feb. than for Mar.
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SB
Yes but its not like you can push a button and just tada there's games. Sony is light this year in the games front a side effect off having a great last year on PS3.
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This thread has gone a bit doom and gloom, all because the PS4 sold marginly less than the Xbox One in a singular country on a singular month. It's still selling faster than PS2, but no, time to talk about the apocalypse and to roll out UB40 (which aren't too far removed).
Interesting that gen 6 hit a peak at just year 3, and maybe this graph explains why gen 7 lasted so long as it was still selling extremely well (and no doubt making good money)
ZhugeEX
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So comparing gen 6 to gen 7,
Gen 6 launched with the PS2 in 2000 (Year 1) and so out of the gate sales were high (although restricted by supply) and able to exceed 1 million that year. The next year saw PS2 sales rocket as well as the successful launches of the GameCube and Xbox which despite launching in the latter half of the year actually doubled the PS2's launch sales. So that's why year 2 is so high for Gen 6.
Year 3 for Gen 6 (2002) saw a price drop for the PS2 making it very attractive and again, sales increased dramatically. Xbox and GameCube sales were moderate. Whilst this is technically the peak year, sales in the next year (2003) didn't decrease that much thanks to continued PS2 demand and again moderately high sales of Xbox and GameCube which were now getting low in price (GC under $100).
2004 (year 5) again didn't see a huge decline as Xbox and Gamecube were doing ok and PS2 had lost some momentum but was clearly the market leader by far. With the launch of the slim PS2 and price cut to $149 we saw PS2 demand surge again end of 2004 and 2005 (year 6) but by this point the Xbox and Gamecube were dead. Hence why once again there is a small decline, then after 2005 the decline starts to become a bit more pronounced as it's pretty much just the PS2 selling but you can see how well it was doing just by itself and even outselling the PS3 in the USA till 2008. Gen 6 ended with an install base of more than 72 million in the USA.
Gen 7 started in 2005 (year 1) with the Xbox 360. Lets be honest here, at launch the 360 was nothing special, no one really bought one and the PS2 was still the console of choice. Hence why Year 1 is the lowest out of all gens. It was being sold at a loss as well and year 2 (2006) didn't fare any better for the 360 with fairly low sales again, 2006 saw the launch of the Wii and PS3 in the final two months of the year which gave it a boost but 2006 for gen 7 was nothing compared to what the PS2 sold in 2001 (year 2).
In year 3 for Gen 7 (2007) we saw the Wii take off and fly whilst the 360 was still doing ok and PS3 was doing terrible (off the back of PS2). This year aligned was the PS2's peak year and price drop year and so that's why Gen 7 year 3 just matched Gen 6 year 3. (Wii was supply constrained as well). Year 4 and Year 5 (2008 and 2009) saw the 360 maintain good sales, PS3 was still a bit meh but was gradually doing better whilst Wii was shooting through the roof and breaking all kinds of records. Especially when the Wii dropped the price in 2009 it gave gen 7 its biggest year yet thanks to that and increased 360 demand (HD consoles starting to sell).
With year 6 (2010) the Wii started to drop off but demand was now being fuelled by Kinect and PS Move and heavy promotion on these two HD consoles. (year 7) 2011 saw the PS3 and 360 peak thanks to the above again whilst Wii faded away almost. Hence why year 7 was the start of the decline. Of course year 8 was when sharp decline happened due to Wii selling nothing but the 360 remained strong along with moderate PS3 sales. Once PS4 was out there was huge demand after the long generation and so gen 7 sales dropped off a cliff.
So to sum up, Gen 6 started fast with the PS2 and saw extended sales over the years. Gen 7 started slow with the 360 and PS3 but the Wii broke all kinds of records, then the Wii faded whilst the 360 and PS3 picked up the slack and started doing the same numbers combined in later years.
Blimey that took some time to type out. Sorry for any mistakes.
PS4 beats XB1 by 100k in March, no biggie. It loses April by 13k, time to drop the price!!!
If they had held the Batman bundle announcement until a few weeks from release they could have not lost so many sales, but June will be huge for PS4.
djskribbles
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Agreed. Losing by a small margin in one market for one month is not a big deal, and a lot of sales were lost to June (as they will in May as well). Certainly not enough to justify a price drop this year. But I'm hoping the standard Batman PS4 bundle replaces the standard PS4 for the time being; that should hold them over for a price drop next year.
I do think Sony should be more aggressive this holiday season though. MS' aggressive pricing might have caught them off guard, but I think they'll have better deals this time around.
I do think Sony should be more aggressive this holiday season though. MS' aggressive pricing might have caught them off guard, but I think they'll have better deals this time around.
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Silent_Buddha
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Is it really going to be that huge for June? I mean pre-orders for PS4: Batman
April
96 - PS4: Batman LE
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The limited edition is sold out, but the standard edition is still available for pre-order. 96th on Amazon is that even worth 7.5% of total PS4 NPD sales for April? Maybe, maybe not. I'm not saying one way or another as there's no way to know.
But the relative lack of pre-orders thus far on Amazon don't paint a huge pre-order boost for PS4 for June. I'm sure there will be at least a small boost, as the Limited Edition sold out (do we know how many of those Sony made?), but the standard edition isn't setting the world on fire.
As well, there's no way of knowing how many of those pre-orders were people planning on buying one in June anyway. It'll certainly be interesting to see however. PS4 should win handily, but that's sort of expected anyway. Although without the Gamestop trade in deal that PS4 had from Aug. 2014 - Mar 2015 (may have started earlier than Aug. not sure). Perhaps it's a little harder for them to win every month that isn't during the holidays now that the deal is for an XBO instead. That's assuming the Gamestop trade-in deals have a significant effect as some are suggesting for why XBO won Apr. NPD. And that considering that the trade in is only 125 USD for XBO when it was 175 USD for 2015 for PS4 (125-150 USD for 2014).
Again, to be clear, I'm not questioning whether PS4 will win June (it should), just how much impact the pre-orders for PS4: Batman bundle will have.
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SB
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96 - PS4: Batman LE
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The limited edition is sold out, but the standard edition is still available for pre-order. 96th on Amazon is that even worth 7.5% of total PS4 NPD sales for April? Maybe, maybe not. I'm not saying one way or another as there's no way to know.
But the relative lack of pre-orders thus far on Amazon don't paint a huge pre-order boost for PS4 for June. I'm sure there will be at least a small boost, as the Limited Edition sold out (do we know how many of those Sony made?), but the standard edition isn't setting the world on fire.
As well, there's no way of knowing how many of those pre-orders were people planning on buying one in June anyway. It'll certainly be interesting to see however. PS4 should win handily, but that's sort of expected anyway. Although without the Gamestop trade in deal that PS4 had from Aug. 2014 - Mar 2015 (may have started earlier than Aug. not sure). Perhaps it's a little harder for them to win every month that isn't during the holidays now that the deal is for an XBO instead. That's assuming the Gamestop trade-in deals have a significant effect as some are suggesting for why XBO won Apr. NPD. And that considering that the trade in is only 125 USD for XBO when it was 175 USD for 2015 for PS4 (125-150 USD for 2014).
Again, to be clear, I'm not questioning whether PS4 will win June (it should), just how much impact the pre-orders for PS4: Batman bundle will have.
Regards,
SB
djskribbles
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A member at GAF that works at Bestbuy says that they're getting a pretty good amount of LE Batman bundles for sale and they sell out instantly. There's obviously a high demand for it, which is obviously not good for sales in the previous months. The bundle seems to be more limited than the Destiny bundle, but I think it will still push the PS4 by a good amount in June. I'm thinking more like ~150k for the LE and regular Batman SKUs, plus another ~200k for the standalone SKU.
Most of it's just faux responses... typical console war BS. However, Sony does need to improve their standard sku bundle... the TLoU bundling has ran it's course, IMHO.
They are waiting for E3 to announce the price drop and The Last Guardian bundle.
They are waiting for E3 to announce the price drop and The Last Guardian bundle.
Neither of those are happening anytime soon...
Seriously, a price cut may come next year (Sony has no reason for cutting something that's very profitable at the moment)... as for TLG, one can only pray it's still in development.
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