All purpose sales and sales rumors/anecdotes thread next gen+

[DuckThor Evil]

That means owners of XB1 are more likely to buy your games than PS4 owners.

Yes, Microsoft bought plenty of them and not just one game but two per One. Before the bundle at mid point of Ubisoft's fiscal year the marketshare was 32 vs 15% between the two platforms. The main sales period (2014 Q4 calendar quarter) was 34 vs 23%, lot's of bundles moved there. 2015 calendar Q1 that is seen in this thread didn't have any releases for the consoles and had only 11.6% of the total fiscal year revenue. PC had the release of Assassin's Creed: Rogue, which along with the low total revenue inflates its marketshare here. I think it's also safe to say that the low total revenue and the Assassin's Creed bundle is the reason for the close marketshare between the consoles in this latest quarter.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Oh, I was just going by what the forum warriors are indicating with hardware sales ratio.

to be fair on those forum warriors, they're talking about the current sales rate rather than the current install ratio. HW is at 23:13 million or whatever now, but PS4 is selling 2:1 or whatever, plus proven 5:1 or more in some territories. The numbers are all legit and come with valid data points, I believe.

As ever, normalise out the launch numbers of a few million units each to die-hard fans and I think it we do see a long-term 2:1 sales ratio

 

[Rangers]

Yup, looking at the most recent quarter.

As a percentage of sales difference only being 32% to 20% is closer than it should be when the hardware numbers are 2:1 - 2.5:1 in favor of PS4 over XB1. That means owners of XB1 are more likely to buy your games than PS4 owners.

For the latest quarter it's only 23%-19%! ~1.2:1

Not only that but I would tend to think of Ubi as more Europe and thus Playstation centric amongst the big publishers. Although again thinking as soon as I typed, they dont have a "Fifa".

Granted I wouldn't put a lot into January-March slow sales, as the full year figures.

Thinking about it, XO is probably helped by all those bundled Assassins Creed?

Edit: Dr Evil covered it.

Is the Ubi figures in the image measured in revenue or units (surely the former, but the latter would seemingly have bundled AC copies help XBO numbers more) Wonder how much revenue they get for each copy of AC in a bundle and how's that delivered? I would have almost assumed some sort of big upfront payment rather than per sale (not sure how that's measured) and I would also assume MS is paying WAY less than 59.99 per bundled AC copy (my guess from my butt would be maybe like $10?)

 

[Prophecy2k]

I think it's unlikely the XB1 has shipped 13 million.

Eitherway, it's someone's "finger in the air" estimate based on how someone justifies the split between XB360 and XB1 shipments in MS' financial reports. Others will justify it a different way and come up with a different number.

It's impossible to tell at the moment. Hopefully with E3 next month, MS should just pull their wiener out and gives us the real sales figure. I mean if the XB1 sales are not bad as the internet continues to tell me, then why hide them?

 

[Rangers]

Well I get 13.7 million XBO should be shipped at end of March if I just assume X360 shipped the same as PS3 over that time. I think it's hardly outrageous, but it is crude and could have a large margin of error.

13 million would be if X360 shipped 700,000 more than PS3 over the last 6 quarters.

About Microsoft giving sales figures, I've thought about it and my guess is they wont. It will only provide fodder for site headline and youtube videos proclaiming PS4 has outsold Xbox One by large margin. Even if say the number is 14+million by E3 which is higher than Neogaf sales crew thinks, the average person has no clue, and will just get IGN comparing it to PS4 last figure of 22 million (or updated E3 number) in a negative light.

For that matter they would have never stopped breaking down the shipments if they wanted us to know how many Xbox One shipped. That said I certainly consider it's possible they make a random comment on XBO shipments sometime.

 

[DieH@rd]

VG247Italy has an interesting report that was unveiled by Sony. PS4 has captured 70% of nextgen share in Italy, selling 60% faster than PS3.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.vg247.it/2015/05/13/playstation-4-e-la-console-piu-venduta-di-sempre-in-italia/

 

[chris1515]

VG247Italy has an interesting report that was unveiled by Sony. PS4 has captured 70% of nextgen share in Italy, selling 60% faster than PS3.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.vg247.it/2015/05/13/playstation-4-e-la-console-piu-venduta-di-sempre-in-italia/

In continental Europe the PS4 is the new PS2...

 

[DrJay24]

Amazon Witcher sales

Hourly: #4 PS4, #31 XB1
May so far: #4 PS4, #27 XB1

 

[DieH@rd]

Amazon Witcher sales

Hourly: #4 PS4, #31 XB1
May so far: #4 PS4, #27 XB1

Wow, that is a big difference! It looks like MS did not have a big co-marketing deal with this game, I barely saw any advertisements and meaningful online promotions. And it looks like only EU will get Witcher 3 Xbone bundle.

Can you find Amazon Witcher 3 data for April?

 

[DrJay24]

Can you find Amazon Witcher 3 data for April?

PS4 #59, XB1 >#100

 

[zed]

I play the majority of my time on the pc. Putting money into my pc simply makes more sense . I've always owned every single console that has come out , last gen I had a ps3 , xbox 360 and wii. This generation I got the xbox one for free and waitied till Mario kart for the wii u.

The next thing I'd want in a 2018 or later console is no optical media . I'm tired of slow drives and long install times

I know sony product's do have a tendency to explode and destroy your neighborhood unlike those 7 xb360's you have had which work faultless but perhaps you just choose the wrong console this round (chuck a SSD into it for even faster installs)
http://kotaku.com/installing-xbox-one-games-takes-way-too-long-1471191836

 

[djskribbles]

PS4 games install in chunks and are playable within seconds or a minute or so. Even digital games work similarly AFAIK.

I remember DF doing an article way back at launch and some XB1 installs took a while. Has that improved?

 

[BRiT]

PS4 games install in chunks and are playable within seconds or a minute or so. Even digital games work similarly AFAIK.

I remember DF doing an article way back at launch and some XB1 installs took a while. Has that improved?

I don't think it's improved on the Xbox One, but it's hard to tell as all the articles I can find tend to be the same ones from back in 2013.

Personally, I don't own any physical media for the Xbox One and the games preload week/days ahead of time. Or if they're already released, they download when I purchase them remotely at the office and they're ready by the time I get home. I really like my internet service, 150-180 mbit and now with monthly bandwidth soft-limits of 2TB (yes, 2 terabytes!)

 

[wco81]

Who's the service with?

How much?

 

[BRiT]

Who's the service with?

How much?

Cox Communication.

The Residential Internet tiers are:
Ultimate; 150-180mbit; 2TB bandwidth; $100 without any bundle special prices.
Premier; 100mbit; 700GB bandwidth; $78 without bundle
Preferred; 50mbit; 350GB bandwidth; $66 without bundle
Essential; 5mbit; 250GB bandwidth; $52 without bundle

They have plans for two speed upgrades later this year to 330-350mbit then 500-550mbit, this is before they begin to roll out Gigabit service next year.

I used to pay $100 a month for ISDN 128kbit service decades back, so this still seems like a bargain price for the speed and bandwidth.

 

[wco81]

Supposedly DOCSIS 3.1 is suppose to be rolling out.

But that's a great deal.

 

[eastmen]

I know sony product's do have a tendency to explode and destroy your neighborhood unlike those 7 xb360's you have had which work faultless but perhaps you just choose the wrong console this round (chuck a SSD into it for even faster installs)
http://kotaku.com/installing-xbox-one-games-takes-way-too-long-1471191836

Works fine for me , I have 4.5Tbs of storage on my xbox one and its extremely fast.

My pc just works better than either of the consoles out

 

[London Geezer]

As I always say, you can never go wrong with.....

Cox Communication.

 

[Prophecy2k]

Cox Communication.

The Residential Internet tiers are:
Ultimate; 150-180mbit; 2TB bandwidth; $100 without any bundle special prices.
Premier; 100mbit; 700GB bandwidth; $78 without bundle
Preferred; 50mbit; 350GB bandwidth; $66 without bundle
Essential; 5mbit; 250GB bandwidth; $52 without bundle

They have plans for two speed upgrades later this year to 330-350mbit then 500-550mbit, this is before they begin to roll out Gigabit service next year.

I used to pay $100 a month for ISDN 128kbit service decades back, so this still seems like a bargain price for the speed and bandwidth.

Being in the Uk with my measly 14 mbit/s connection, this just depresses me.

Really need to move house so that I can get FiOp.

 

[DieH@rd]

I am happy with my current internet. 20/1 ADSL for $18 per month, no bandwidth limitations. The only problem is that I am quite away from my local provider center, so I get only ~14mbit down.