Uh isn't there like 40% more PS4s in the UK than xb1? The attach rate would actually be higher using the 31% to 24% sales number.
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Uh isn't there like 40% more PS4s in the UK than xb1? The attach rate would actually be higher using the 31% to 24% sales number.
Uhm, the percentage numbers are percentage of Fifa 2014 software units sold.
Let suppose Fifa 2014 sold 1 million units in 1 week. The breakdown would thus lead to:
310K in PS4 for 1 week sales
240K in XB1 for 1 week sales
240K in XB360 for 1 week sales
That's not that far of a difference in unit sales given there should be substantially more PS4 than XB1 units out there if reality is like people are claiming it to be.
Ya I was trying to point out that the expectation from my perspective would be a larger lead than that given that Sony is most certainly selling more hardware where Fifa sells best.
We can debate this all day, about FiFa 14... It's just my opinion, MS should of had FiFa 14 sales in the bag, but it didn't. Actually, what it shows, is that PS4 pricing is far more palatable, regardless of freebies. But the fact is, PS4 is garnering higher software sales at BB/GS (2:1), and possibly other US retailers.
Let me ask you this... Which first party (internal) games between XB1 and PS4, do you think are having the higher attach rates?
Regarding articles and others out there speculating that consoles will end up having less demand than phones/tablets due to the sales of those and phenomenal success of a few games on those....has the opposite been considered or discussed? Could the success of smartphones and tablets increase demand for consoles? Blah.
Good for MS for getting 3 million sold in 2013. That's a great achievement and much higher than I thought they'd sell. If they didn't sell more in the US in December I'll be super impressed with Sony. Either way I am happy to hear some preliminary results for the Bone. Hopefully this helps MS in rethinking whether to spin off/sell the Xbox brand.
Good for MS for getting 3 million sold in 2013. That's a great achievement and much higher than I thought they'd sell. If they didn't sell more in the US in December I'll be super impressed with Sony. Either way I am happy to hear some preliminary results for the Bone. Hopefully this helps MS in rethinking whether to spin off/sell the Xbox brand.
Possibly other retailers, and possibly not. It's possible sales figures are lopsided the other way around at other retailers. I'm glad that you posted sales data for Best Buy and Gamestop for December, however with the lead in PS4 sales being around 21k units it doesn't inspire confidence this pattern will be repeated across most other retailers. If the lead were higher then that would be a different story, but it could be that Walmart ended up selling 50k more units of Bones compared to PS4. I hope more sales numbers come in soon.
I expect KZ has the highest attach rate. MS has Ryse and Forza splitting sales.
I expect NPD will demonstrate how well or poorly your BB/GS numbers translate to all retail in the US.
For the record, Ryse numbers are in the toilet, especially when you have 3 million XB1 units sold. Forza 5 is fair, from what I hear, it's somewhere between 500k-650k units sold worldwide.
What are you expecting Sony to sell less than 281K (GS/BB: 174k Wal-Mart 107K) units for the month of December? Really?
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PlayStation 4 has slight sales advantage in US following holiday supply issues
I guess the sales numbers are pointing in the right direction... PS4 might lead Decembers NPD, or not. Or maybe, just maybe, it will end in some weird cosmic tie for December.
Anyhow, I can also confirm Wal-Mart did have two major shipments of PS4s during the last two weeks of December, totaling 107k units in all.But this pales in comparison than the 350k units GameStop sold during PS4 US launch. But still a nice stockpile... sold stockpile anyhow.
One thing to note. That analyst is only quoting one source. Gamestop. Nothing else.
Is the relevant part of the article.
That actually looks pretty good for Xbox One as software that is part of a console isn't considered as sales. While software that is part of a bundle (added cost for the software) is counted as a sale.
Hence FIFA 1 that is part of the console and doesn't increase it's cost isn't counted towards how many copies were sold on that platform. Same goes for past bundles where software is included with the console at the consoles normal MSRP.
NPD as well as the European sales tracking agencies have done it this way for over a decade now.
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Which as of now, is confirming my numbers dealing with GameStop, as PS4 has the sales advantage from that standpoint. But yes, other retailers may have XB1 at an advantage, which I never argued against. So, December's NPD as I stated before, can go either direction.
I mentioned this earlier, not enough data points and even if we had more retailers we wouldn't have enough time to draw any conclusions. As Shifty pointed out a few days back, its really early to start reaching any conclusions.
This spring we'll start to see some important titles drop and that will hopefully give some indication. MS has Titanfall which should be a huge win for them, Infamous could have a similar impact for the PS4 but I'm not convinced its an IP that can draw buyers like online shooters have been proven to be capable of for many years now.
Although the variety of titles coming out for PS4 by first party is already looking very good and we haven't seen anything from many of the studios yet....
If demand starts to drop for XB1 Titanfall will certainly help jumpstart the demand.
Or is it some type of B3D consensus, that MS stocked the USA retailers (60/40 or 70/30) more than the other territories? If that's the case, XB1 unit sales should lead December's NPD...
I've been saying since November that I expected MS to flood the US with supply. I also think demand for PS4 exceeds demand for the XB1 but I don't know if that is due to price, features and power or something else.
Maybe a combination of everything? Honestly, what I want to see is MS game plan for Japan, and the other upcoming territories. And how the PS4 will survive the post launch months in Japan against WiiU, with the lack of Japanese titles.
I'm talking about how the ratio translates into overall.
As for game sales. We'll see. Forza has always had a long tail on its sales. I'm personally waiting for a wheel.
If I were MS I'd just ignore Japan. It's not worth any special effort. They hurt themselves with their effort in Japan last time.
I don't. I think MS should keep pounding away until they get it right... or close to right, anyhow. If the PS4 is the second coming of PS2, then Japan could equal another 20ish million units sold for PS4. Something, MS needs to avoid - just "giving up".
I see no reason to expect the Japanese market is ever going to achieve what it once was, they seem to have mostly moved on from home consoles.
MS wasted a crap load of effort there which didn't pan out to much (1.5m?) they'd have been better off spending that effort/money on NA or EU. It certainly couldn't have resulted in less reward.
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It's more that MS has to restock fewer territories than Sony. So for Sony to win in the US Dec. NPD, for example, they would have to send far fewer units to some of their other launch countries than MS.
MS. X for US...Y for 12 other territories.
Sony. X for US...Y for 32 other territories.
Either that or demand for Xbox One would have to fall off significantly. Say only 70% or 80% of the Xbox Ones allocated to the US sold through to consumers.
So, IMO, only two realistic scenarios for PS4 to win US Dec. NPD. First that Sony is shafting most of their launch territories with barely any stock in order to send more units to the US than Microsoft. Or demand has fallen off significantly for the Xbox One.
Both are possible, although I would hope Sony wouldn't shaft their launch territories just to win the US.
More likely, IMO, is that Microsoft wins Dec.
That said, I think there's a good chance that Sony may win January.
I also expect Sony to come out on top world wide. Although I do find it curious that there has been no press release from Sony about how many consoles they have shipped/sold. It took them only 3 days to announce sales for November. But it's been 6 days now since Dec. and still not a peep.
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