DerekBaker
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991060 said:Maybe there will be an extreme edition of R420 for hardcore gaming guys.
CyFactor said:They should still have Overdrive available, and perhaps this time they won't be as conservative.
I'll bet R420 at 500 MHz will still have a single slot cooling solution.
But, there is much more to performance than pure MHz. Clock for clock, R360 has more processing power than NV35.
Joe DeFuria said:CyFactor said:They should still have Overdrive available, and perhaps this time they won't be as conservative.
That's a good point, though I'm skeptical of Overdrive ever approaching significant clock increases over the core. The reason why ATI is conservative, is because they need to "guarantee" operation at overclocked speeds....if they can do that...why don't they just make those speeds stock?
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demalion said:OEM power requirments, I thought we were agreed?
Joe DeFuria said:If true, I'm (as usual) a little disappointed in the memory clocks ATI is pushing...speaking from an enthusiast perspective. 500/1000 Mhz was available 18 months ago...even if only in dustbuster format.
I'd really like to see ATI put out a flagship, even if it's little more than a "PR Card", that utilizes bleeding edge memory speed. Make it strictly a retail based solution, even if it's only directly sold through ATI. (This is the same sort of "complaint" I've lodged with PowerVR in the past.)
That being said, ATI is likely staying true to their "keep OEMs happy with respect to power consumption, heat generation, and cooling requirements" roots, which is understandable. However, I still think the PR value of a "this is what we could do if we ignore OEM guidelines" would be worth an additional, limited edition, SKU.
digitalwanderer said:I don't think we've heard the truth about either card yet.
Joe DeFuria said:demalion said:OEM power requirments, I thought we were agreed?
Yes I know what you're saying, but if the card can officially be run in a manner that does NOT meet oem power requirements, then does it really meet oem power requirements?
The Baron said:(PS--what are the odds that RV420 or whatever that variant is will have 325Mhz RAM )
Joe DeFuria said:991060 said:Maybe there will be an extreme edition of R420 for hardcore gaming guys.
Well, according to The Inq, the 420 XT is the extreme edition.
I don't think we've heard anything but rumor mongering from people not connected to nVidia or ATI.digitalwanderer said:nVidia has been swinging the "we got the ball-busting, 16-pipe, ATi killing card" and ATi is going with the "golly, they're card looks VERY fast and ours isn't so hot!" approach to try and lull nVidia into a false sense of security.
Well, 'cept the stuff I said. What I said was 100%, absolutely, positively, without-a-doubt, bang-on what I was thinking at the time. 8)Chalnoth said:I don't think we've heard anything but rumor mongering from people not connected to nVidia or ATI.digitalwanderer said:nVidia has been swinging the "we got the ball-busting, 16-pipe, ATi killing card" and ATi is going with the "golly, they're card looks VERY fast and ours isn't so hot!" approach to try and lull nVidia into a false sense of security.