[360] Forza Motorsport 3

All of the official screenshots I've seen are from the replay mode which bakes the physics and then adds AA and such. Which sucks because it is a bit misleading... but thats modern day marketing.

Whats worse is they can simply switch to the "normal race camera" during replays and it will give the impression that it was taken from race mode shots.

 

Gamersyde (and GT) have some realtime gameplay off screen and aliasing is minimal. Will there be aliasing? Duh, yes, the machine maxes out at 4xMSAA. On the other hand Turn10 as addressed a lot of aliasing issues, not just edge aliasing (which eventually got 4x in a patch in FM2). They really cleaned up image quality (everything from higher resolution/higher updated reflections, removing the nasty white pixels, applied some texture filtering, etc).

 

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/media/videos/default.htm#/video/120/

 

more like that

 

While I have respect for what this studio does with the game, I can't help but be disgusted with their amatuerish behavior during (and after) E3. Their constant slamming of Polyphony Digital is unacceptable.

I've never liked Che, but it seems as though many other members of the development team share the childish thoughts and opinions that he does.

I'll probably still buy Forza 3, but I may consider purchasing it used.

 

It was quoted from what is stated in the video.

http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/08/pol...-out-proves-competition-is-good-says-turn-10/

 

Yeah kinda unecessary but they seem to mimick the to be found PS3 devs attitude going by interviews and forums and slander talk. Still not good whoever does it.

OT: Kinda lame with replay videos as both games looks far better in replays. FZ3 seems to look better IMO in replays (judging by those offscreen replay/gameplay videos). But didn't Turn 10 say they needed to polish things up?

 

Not that it's related to this thread, but I haven't heard many developers, period, saying another developer is "past their prime" or that their product "has become stagnant".

Not Bungie, Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Polyphony, Square, no one. It's just unprofessional and amatuer. Afterall, Polyphony didn't trash Turn10 when Forza 1 was released and only ran at 30fps.

 

Polyphony NEVER trashed Forza. Same thing can't be said for Turn 10 and their anti-PD talk.

 

Well, let's not take it too far off track though. I apologize for my comments, I don't want to derail the thread. I am just very passionate about games, and it aggrivates me that someone who should be respectful of their peers is not, especially when it's undeservedly so.

I'm still excited for Forza 3, and cannot wait to purchase my [used] copy.

 

Anyone have any input on this? The tesselator is something I've always wondered if it is just a bullet point feature that had no real world use (at least the version on the 360). I know Viva Pinata used it for the ground deformation, but nothing else seems to use it (or nobody talks about using it).

 

I've no idea, but a good place to seek an answer on that would be NeoGAF, Chespace (Forza's Community Manager) may be able to better answer that question. Or you could possibly head over to the Forza Community (forzamotorsport.net) and ask there.

I'd definitely ask via PM though, you may confuse a lot of forum members

 

Thats "in-game" footage but not from "race mode" footage. Its all from the replay editor which pumps up the graphics.

Does anyone have any direct screenshots/videos of the race mode. Curious to see what the AA and Shadows look like.

 

I think there is only off-screen gameplay footage

 

I imagine it's just that PD is king of the hill. They have created the definitive console racer, so they have a target on their backs.

But you are right. No dev should slam another. Let the games do the talking. I've heard Forza's project lead guy (Dan Greenawalt?) talk before, and after about 30 seconds I was ready for him to shut the hole under his nose.

 

I'm a huge Forza fan, and can't wait for 3 to come out. But it seems rather presumptious to claim the most cars and tracks this gen when it's highly likely that GT will offer more of both. They need to qualify that with "at the time is ships, it will..." It's probable Forza will have more online features, more extensive damage (roll over), and customization, but we'll have to wait and see. I'll give you one thing, Sony has been very patient with PD.

 

Damn you just beat me to it. PD are basically just more PC and polite when calling out their competition.

We have have the premium product because we concentrated on the core aspects of a racer that people care about. So we're a higher quality product.

While Forza has more options but is shallower and more of a budget/economy title.

Turn10 just happens to be a bit more blunt. And grating in how they try to downplay the competition.

Regards,
SB

 

And they (Turn10) play up to their audience who acts the same way.

I read the comment about Polophony visiting Turn10´s booth and asking questions, competition is good, but i then wondered what parts of the Forza games we see in the GT series, i honestly don´t know. Anyone does?

 

There could always be more content added later tracks/cars as DLC.

Anyway it's interesting that the senior designer at T10 is Jun Taniguchi formerly at SEGA.

 

I haven't read anything like that. Obviously, that would be silly, since everybody expect GT5 have more cars and tracks. Honestly, the whole talk about a game being the definitive racer is silly. Forza 3 and GT5 will end up being quite different games. I expect the former to be the more interesting in terms of handling and the number of features, and the latter to have a visual edge and to have more content.

Even then, there will always be those who prefer the arcade racing of the PGR, Burnout, DIRT or NFS series. There are far too many great racing games this year to be talking about something "definitive".