Isn't the better metric latency? I believe Killzone 2 and Halo 3 IIRC and Call Of Duty were measured at 188, 100 and 66ms respectively which makes the former and the latter completely different and even distinguishes between different 30FPS tiles.
1080p 30fps VS 720p 60 fps - The 2012 poll
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It's not like 1080p as a standard for games is going to set the world on fire. Most people won't notice it, and it adds nothing to the spectacle side of gaming other than filling up a bigger screen with slightly sharper details.
What are the two most popular games that rakes in large amounts of cash? A simple cartoon game about frustrated birds where physics and geometry are the biggest draws for gameplay, and an FPS military action-movie type of game that runs at 60fps with a sub-HD resolution and a popular multiplayer mode.
I'd say that moving up the resolution side of things would just be a waste of resources, considering we'd be moving on to more complex systems for bigger games (A.I., physics, etc.). We'd pretty much see the same problems associated with current games when it comes to framerate problems, screen tearing, and anything else you can think of.
What are the two most popular games that rakes in large amounts of cash? A simple cartoon game about frustrated birds where physics and geometry are the biggest draws for gameplay, and an FPS military action-movie type of game that runs at 60fps with a sub-HD resolution and a popular multiplayer mode.
I'd say that moving up the resolution side of things would just be a waste of resources, considering we'd be moving on to more complex systems for bigger games (A.I., physics, etc.). We'd pretty much see the same problems associated with current games when it comes to framerate problems, screen tearing, and anything else you can think of.
Games like the GTA series and the AC series also seem to bring in a lot of money. And do not forget sport games like Madden, FIFA and NBA.
It's about having game pixels vs. screen pixels be on a 1:1 ratio. That is key. Personally I would not mind a 10 pixel border on the screen if that meant a native 1080p rendered image without any blurry pixel stretching or pixelization.
Silent_Buddha
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Take most people. Sit them on a couch at typical/recommended TV viewing distances.
Show them content (movies, games, photos, etc.) on the TV without telling them what resolution something is running at.
The vast majority of them wouldn't be able to tell the difference or even know which was at 720p and which was at 1080p. Hence why I do ALL of my PC gaming on my living room TV at 720p instead of 1080p. I'd be willing to bet most of them wouldn't be able to tell if a game was running at 540p versus 1080p either if the game had good MSAA or RGSSAA. Pretty much the only thing that would give it away is the size of the jaggies from aliasing. Again, assuming typical/recommended TV viewing distances for a given screen size.
In other words, most people would never have known that Halo Reach or CoD weren't running at 720p or 1080p if other people hadn't told them it wasn't. Hence, your average consumer thinks those are fantastic looking games because they don't get bogged down by the numbers.
On my desktop computer it's a completely different story as my screen is only 2 feet from my face.
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I voted for trust the devs(closest option to depends on the game).
If there were to be a standard though, I think 60 FPS would be greatly preferred.
A lower framerate is more apparent to me than a low resolution. (if it matters, most of my 360 gaming has been done on SDTV
my PC usually plays the multiplats at 60 FPS at high at 1080p though)
Also, back in 2009, Epic said that more than half of the Gears 2 players still were using SDTVs. And CoD sells like crazy, despite being "sub HD". So I don't think resolution matters much at all.
I wonder how the HDTV marketshare is split between the 1080p and 720p sets, if 1080p really is so big that it's a key selling point.
60 FPS would be a noticeable upgrade for gameplay no matter what TV you use.
If there were to be a standard though, I think 60 FPS would be greatly preferred.
A lower framerate is more apparent to me than a low resolution. (if it matters, most of my 360 gaming has been done on SDTV
my PC usually plays the multiplats at 60 FPS at high at 1080p though)Also, back in 2009, Epic said that more than half of the Gears 2 players still were using SDTVs. And CoD sells like crazy, despite being "sub HD". So I don't think resolution matters much at all.
I wonder how the HDTV marketshare is split between the 1080p and 720p sets, if 1080p really is so big that it's a key selling point.
60 FPS would be a noticeable upgrade for gameplay no matter what TV you use.
Blazkowicz
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Mostly yes, until you run into a CPU limitation (and one from single-threaded performance at that)
If your game is CPU limited (while not necessarily being able to fully use 8 core if it is what we get) then 1080p 30 may be easier than 720p 60.
I disagree, aa (not just the post process type) still is good to have at that resolution, its still good to have at 5760x1080
ps: why doesnt the poll have a trust the gamer option - let them choose
AlStrong has massive balls.
Because consoles.
Edit: Even if console owners could choose, they could still have a preference. Which is the point of the poll. The give-away is the "What's your preference?" bit.
Because consoles.
Edit: Even if console owners could choose, they could still have a preference. Which is the point of the poll. The give-away is the "What's your preference?" bit.
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No. I'm hi-fiving his poll teabags because he has massive balls.
I saw the light back in 1990
But I dont want this thread to devolve into pc vs console territory
Very few people teabag on the PC. They have better things to do, like look for Beta drivers that might fix critical issues with new games.
But this is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with the poll, or the fact that AIStrong is the only person to take the WiiU option in this poll.
(Meaning AlStrong has aforementioned massive balls).
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