You don't own a PS3. Why?

[tirminyl]

There are tons of gamers like that, especially in the online community. Sports, racing and the big fps titles dominate that community of gamers that are happy to play one game for months and months on end.

Oh, I know that but he in particular doesn't play online.

 

[eloic]

I think this thread is probably better suited though for people to post why they don't own a PS3. Discussing those reasons can be interesting, but will probably end up locking the thread.

Shhhhh...

I know Shifty and I responded to one of the posts, but what we probably should have done is point out that insulting other people for not making the same choice as you is rather impolite and presumptuous, and leave it at that.

Of course, that kind of attitude is stupid. If somebody thought that I created these threads to allow people to carry their aggressiveness shotgun, they are wrong.

 

[tha_con]

Those arguments, along with the time aspect, may be sides of the same coin. At least they are/were for me. I only have time for one game at a time and, as you say, both consoles have loads of similar titles. Thus, it pretty much came/comes down to price. At the time of my purchase, the 360 was less than half the price of of a PS3 and had a bigger back catalog of cheaper games that I might want to play. Both would have fulfilled my needs, but one did it significantly cheaper. Now, it's not really that I can't afford a PS3 too (if you asked me whether I wanted one, I'd say yes), but at the moment what it does that that the 360 doesn't won't provide enough added value for me to spend the money required to get one. At some point down the line,though, that may change.

Well, they have similar titles, but they are also different, end exclusive, etc.

GT5 --> Forza
inFamous --> Crackdown
Metal Gear --> Splinter Cell
Buzz --> Scene It
LBP --> Banjo
SingStar --> Lips
Resistance --> Halo
God of War --> Ninja Gaiden

All 3 systems offer enough exclusives, IMO, to warrant their price. Not to mention 2 of them offer some great features:

Netflix, Zune Video Store, and XBL features

Blu-Ray, Media playback, PS Home, Linux Support

I think you have to seek out the advantages about each system to appreciate it,.

But, like I said, it's just my opinion Mine is certainly not the norm, nor the "exception" so don't take it at face value Hopefully I didn't say anything rude, if I did, I apologize, it's not my intent.

 

[digitalwanderer]

You don't own a PS3. Why?

Because I don't have the moneys for all the toys I wants.

 

[tha_con]

If he used "==" instead of ">" i would agree with you, but he didn't. Plus, even if he did mean they were all similar, that just plays into this whole thread even better. If they are so similar, why in heck would someone pay for the more expensive machine, let alone buying both?

I most certainly didn't mean that any of those titles were "better". I understand why you would have read it that way, but that wasn't my intent.

I was just using it as an arrow, not a greater than. Sorry for the confusion.

Edit: After reading your post, I think you've mistaken me for a "fanboy". Side note: Where did you pull that 30 million number from? Honestly, if you're going to throw around numbers, at least know what you're talking about.

Edit 2: My "list" doesn't play into the thread. My point was that while the games are similar (same genre) they still offer a different experience. Playing Crackdown 2 years ago left me with a desire to play something similar, and inFAMOUS gave me that. I hadn't played a GT in a while, Forza 2 gave me my fix. That time passed, and GT5: Prologue came along. It's not like once you've played one game in a certain genre, the rest don't matter.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Yes, please use correct punctuation. We're already seeing future generations literacy abilities nose-dive as they write net-speak, and it's a scary world where the pronoun 'I' loses its capitalisation!

 

[noneofexion]

*repost proper caps*

I don't want to be part of that problem...please remove original post.

I went the 360 route because from what I've read and seen (much of which on this site), the 360 is a more capable machine hardware/architecture-wise. It is selling the best overall which to me translates to more games. I know its not always that simple (sales don't always equal more games), but that is one factor.

The PS3's "value" is not high to me. The system seems poorly though-out. no rumble at first, no trophies at first, spotty online (to me, something that is free but sort of sucks is not better than something that costs money but is more usable), spending way too much money/time/effort on something like "HOME" doesn't jive with me. The core PS3 system design - the CPU, the GPU, the way its designed, all have been described as obtuse and difficult to harness, and the hardware design choices effect games even today.

Getting into an argument about the "value" proposition, if that is part of this thread : I don't care about wi-fi, and as far as bd, I'd rather have a standalone Blu-ray player than have it be part of a game system. I don't play DVDs on my 360, I have a standalone player designed for the task. It's a personal preference, but optical drives (Blu-ray or otherwise) don't last forever, and why would I add wear and tear to an expensive piece of hardware if I don't have to?

I think Sony's hardware engineers created an obtuse piece of hardware whose "potential" may or may not be realized but when they say things like its difficult on purpose its hard to swallow. Whether or not PS3 developers are "lazy" doesn't matter to me. If it takes half a decade to be "as good as" the cheaper competition - something is wrong. And I dont care so much whose fault it is when the trend remains.

What matters to me is the bottom line. Gameplay is important, but video games are a visual medium too. Graphics are important. In the majority of head-to-head comparisons (i'm talking 24-bit png exact frame grabs, not youtube videos) the 360's strengths continue to produce higher-res textures, shorter load times, more AA, and more cases of true 720p as opposed to weird hybrid resolutions in multiplat titles (the games I tend to get)

I know cases of no AA and sub-HD exist on both consoles... but overall, the 360 seems like a better-abled console in practice (not just theory). For those that would argue "RROD" to that, you're missing the point that I'm making. For me, that is irrelevant. despite the stability of the hardware (which as far as i can tell, 2008 and newer machines are less prone and I and those i know haven't had issues with the new ones), the 360 hardware architecture itself is just better designed, or if it isn't - is producing better-looking multiplat games. the CPU, GPU, EDRAM, all that are well-thought out choices...you can fix stability without breaking compatibility or segmenting your audience. I dont know how much you can fix a limited architecture without segmenting the audience or software.

Price was not a factor in my decision. I do think the PS3 is too expensive for what it is. Others disagree. Others like to justify purchases. Others consider it a holy war. To each their own I guess...

PS3 removing BC was a mistake that I think indicates wrong thinking on their part. To me it doesn't matter that PS2's aren't everywhere... nobody likes to see their media become obsolete. Relying on old hardware in its twilight years DOES NOT count to me. Whether or not they are easy to find doesn't count either. The "current" PS platform does not support its predecessor's software.

Imagine if Blu-Ray players /couldn't play/ DVD-Video at all. You could argue, why am I playing an SD format when I have the capability to play an HD format, but i think the successor to a technology supporting its predecessor is important. to me, you should support old formats as long as possible. We're not talking cart->CD. We're talking cd-sized disc to cd-sized disc (physical size).

The 360 does not have complete bc, not by a long shot - BUT, the 360's design is much more "straightforward", and the likelihood of the next xbox being able to play 360 games seems higher than the PS3 because of the less unique hardware architecture. If Sony decides to change its architecture again - good luck trying to emulate the ps3 completely in software. It is very unique. They can't even emulate the ps2 100% in software! someday they might... if the 360's design is much more PC-like, or just generally simpler, I'd hope that expanding on that or emulating it would be easier, especially if the next system is just a speed and memory-bumped version of what they have now.

Ultimately, I got an Elite off Dell for 329 with free shipping (and sold the pack in for 30 on eBay - so sorta like 299). I'm happy with it. It wasn't the price. My friend has a ps3 and feels it was worth it for him. I wouldn't buy one. now or for any price. Even if i didn't have a 360. If it looked like 360 was no longer being supported, then id consider it...

 

[noneofexion]

sites like this illustrate the differences nicely, interesting stuff to me
http://www.lensoftruth.com/?cat=47

 

[Nesh]

Can we change the poll options with something better? This is so not-beyond3d.

 

[Zaphod]

Well, they have similar titles, but they are also different, end exclusive, etc.

GT5 > Forza
...

All 3 systems offer enough exclusives, IMO, to warrant their price.

Well, then we simply disagree. Mostly, I think, on how much value we give to gaming.

Even if all your ">"s were unequivocally true (edit: if read as "greater than"), it still wouldn't be enough for me to care. I'm more of the "PGR4 thoroughly scratched my racing itch for a while, and if was £7"-kind of guy. For example, Heavy Rain and Uncharted 2 are games I believe I would like to play, but factoring in the initial investment they don't compete with two arbitrary 360 games; they compete with twenty of them.

Meh... I'm probably just too old and pragmatic to have kept the passion... :smile:

 

[-tkf-]

Meh... I'm probably just too old and pragmatic to have kept the passion... :smile:

If you are old you hardly can have time for many games anyway

 

[Zaphod]

True, true. Just today, I resisted the urge to pick up Dead Space on the cheap. My current backlog is big enough as it is...

 

[trinibwoy]

I think those who don't own all three simply aren't that into videogames.

Or do other things with their lives besides playing said video games .

I have a PS3 and it definitely gets much more of a workout as a blu-ray player than anything else. I've got about 6 PS3 games alone to wrap up, not to mention my neglected Steam collection I don't understand how anyone can say there's a lack of games for any platform...

 

[scooby_dooby]

I bought one last year, but honestly it sits and collects dust 98% of the time. Between the 360 and PC I find it really hard to find much reason to play it. With that said, there are about 4 or 5 games that I'm really anxious to play, it's just a matter of finding the time.

I gotta echo the sentiments about the stupid recharge cable, and the controller seems to be always dead when I go to grab it, does it not have some sort of auto-off function? It's resally annoying. On the plus side, it's a generic usb>mini-usb so it's not a big deal really. The bigger issue is the conrtoller constantly needing to be turned off...wtf?

Great system though, very slick, strong media playback, but the game library really doesn't have much to distinguish itself from the competition really. IMHO of course.

 

[L. Scofield]

I don't own one because there's really nothing that interests me enough to buy the console. Maybe in a few years that'll change. Plus, the PC currently fullfils my gaming needs quite nicely

EDIT: I see the thread was slightly modified lol

 

[Graham]

EDIT: I see the thread was slightly modified lol

Yes just a tad

Seriously though...
Things were getting out of hand. I've taken out the chainsaw and culled a lot of the off topic noise. If I've mistakenly deleted a legitimate post, I apologize.

 

[Crossbar]

I gotta echo the sentiments about the stupid recharge cable, and the controller seems to be always dead when I go to grab it, does it not have some sort of auto-off function? It's resally annoying. On the plus side, it's a generic usb>mini-usb so it's not a big deal really. The bigger issue is the conrtoller constantly needing to be turned off...wtf?

The auto-power off of the controls is optional. You activate it under the settings menu. I have it set at 10 minutes and I can´t see a reason to have it set at any longer, as you can turn it on in just a few seconds. Haven´t had a dead controller since that firmware upgrade, which is probably more than a year old.

You can also set the console to turn it self off after a pre-set time of inactivity. I believe I have it set at 2 hours. I never watch a BD-movie for two hours without once pausing it, so it works for me. Its a neat feature because the kids always forget to turn it off, saves both the console and the power.

 

[Graham]

Come on guys.

We have already seen in this thread what sarcastic replies and borderline personal insults can bring.
So keep it civil please.

 

[tha_con]

Come on guys.

We have already seen in this thread what sarcastic replies and borderline personal insults can bring.
So keep it civil please.

If any of my post was offensive I apologize, but I do feel the need to point out certain things like that. If you're going to make a complaint, wouldn't it be best if you knew what you were talking about? I find it disingenuous to say the controller battery life bothers you, when the problem is entirely yours and has nothing to do with the system, don't you? After all, it has an auto-off function, a recharge cable, and Sony makes damn well sure you know how charged it is (by placing the batter icon on top of everything...ugh, such sloppy UI design). I really see no reason to just "accept" complaints like that when they are obviously not valid.

I didn't purchase my car and then complain when I start it up and it's low on gas. I fill it up when it's low, the same can be said for any device that consumes some form of energy.

So, again, I apologize if I offended anyone, that's most certainly not my intent, I just feel complaints (and compliments) should be justified or not posted at all. Same goes for YLOD / RROD nonsense.

Edit: For the record, I'll stop derailing this topic

 

[pjbliverpool]

I might have got a PS3 if it had come out first but the simple truth is that I got a 360 first and I don't need both. Plus even my 360 mostly just collects dust these days as I do all ofmy gaming on the PC.

I see the Blu-ray capability as the biggest incentive to get a PS3 though. There are definatly a few exlusive games I would be interestedin though, LBP, GT5, Buzz, Singstar, perhaps one or two others.