Only new subscribers are affected by this. Everyone on gamepass today will be grandfathered. So no unsubbing and resubbing if you want to keep your plan.
They made their conference and the cod announcement knowing full well that they were going to remove the day one entitlement from the game pass for console tier while upping the price. At the end of every trailer there was "coming day one to game pass". At the very least, it's crafty manipulation.
they did not remove day one entitlement to gamepass for console. They removed the whole sku for purchase. It’s the second bullet point!
I understand that users who will keep subbing will maintain day games. But for everyone else, the marketing they did is as I said.
You're fusing two different aspects here where there isn't one. What we have is two discrete perspectives. Those saying GP wasn't sustainable can take this evidence that they were correct. Those using GP can talk about how it affects them. Unless you have a poster who's arguing both aspects, complaining about raising prices and saying GP is unsustainable, the two are unrelated discussions. And if a poster is saying that, your point should be directed at that poster, not the general populace.
Not really. Iroboto's info shows no change, so exactly as said in May, COD is coming to XBox Game Pass. What's they've done is change the availability of XBGP. Main point here is those who sub to XBGP are not going to want to let it lapse - MS have made a move to tie them in. If you let it lapse, you then need a more expensive GPU to get those 'day 1' games. For those who'll sub for a month to play a game like Hellblade, the new price greatly improves MS's revenue from them. It's only rather sucky for future XB buyers who don't get the same XBGP experience.
Do they actually state perpetuity or is it only until they need addition revenue to maintain profits? This offering seems similar to what some telecom/internet providers have (auto payments) but later increase the base tier amounts regardless of whether existing or new customers.
It is their intention to remove it cuz they'd ideally like people to pay more. Keeping it for people who stay subscribed indefinitely is like their one consolation aspect to not royally piss off everybody completely. But with the fact that you still need to pay another subscription for online gaming, it's still pretty clear the main goal is really to just get everybody on Ultimate if at all possible. I would not be surprised if they remove lower tiers at some point in the future completely or even get rid of the 'consolation' of people staying on with the old subscription/price if they feel there's too many still taking advantage of it for their liking.
On this point one thing to be cognitive of is that Profit margin and sustainability are very different things. If they want more profit, they can raise prices. If it is not sustainable, they can raise prices. The result is the same, the reasoning can be very different.
Those using gamepass today has no changes unless they were trying to exploit it. It only affects those for gamepass in the future. Yes, by moving COD to GP, they made a move to block people from subbing and unsubbing a month later.
That’s entirely perspective. Gamepass is a great service, too much value once the ABK merger occurred, that it overshadowed the other ways to play games on Xbox.
MS did not state in perpetuity. But they did not indicate any changes to existing members and they deprecated a sku for new members. If they did so, then they would be going against their word at the hearings.
Until game pass standard is announced we don’t know the full story yet. It may yet still come to game pass standard, just not day one.
But standard is already announced.
Oh right.
I disagree. The marketing (was) "play day one on gamepass". Still a great deal for people that play and try a lot of games.
Which at the time it was prior to this SKU change. Day one applied to both SKUs. They did not market falsely.
This will be tough because cod is on other platforms. So how would we know. We'd have to look at someone that is exclusively on xbox or xbox/ pc at the most
Yes, they are. Most users were already Ultimate subscribers as I already pointed out, which price has gone up. And they will be hoping enough other people either lapse or make the shift to Ultimate, which gets them more money. That's the very obvious goal here.
