xbox 360 confirmed pricing

[Bad_Boy]

Sony can pull a crazy move that i was thinking about for awhile

350$ ps3 core with no movie playback and u have to buy an over priced remote to use the movie playback .

Then sell a 100$ more package with playback .

sony =! ms
if sony does do multiple sku's, it wont be as stupid as that those two. no offence.
i dont see why it wouldnt have movie playback out of the box? its not the xbox1. even ps2 had movie playback out of the box.

Sony only needs one sku.

qft.

Sony has already done two skus . IN japan there are two skus for the psp . The bare bones system and the memory card + case + ehad phones bundle .

and many people didnt like them. which is probably why the us market did not get 2 psp sku's
sony has a history of testing in a local/small location first, then changing things before giving the product to the rest of the world based on what analyst and consumers say.

 

[overclocked_enthusiasm]

$299 for PS3 on Amazon.com and reported by thestreet.com tonight.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...96906?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance

Hardly a definitive answer on pricing, but interesting anyways.

 

[pc999]

NOPE!!!! NO NO NO. As you can see people are not liking the two sku thing. Sony only needs one sku.

If it is good for MS is good for Sony, as people can like multiples SKUs, a Live enable one would sell well, for example, if they arent stupid, offensive, and dont destroy the hole experince for every SKU, SKUs can be a good thing.

 

[kyleb]

$299 for PS3 on Amazon.com and reported by thestreet.com tonight.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...96906?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance

Hardly a definitive answer on pricing, but interesting anyways.

Why is it even interesting? I doub't it is any more credible a price estimate than the 360 with a harddrive people were preordering in masses for $300.

 

[dizzyd]

In regards to the launch price of the PS3 I believe that it will most likely be higher than $400. At around the time of lauch there will already be HDDVD and BD players being sold(I think they are selling one or two models now in Japan) and from what I have read those players can cost from $400 to $1000+. I believe that Sony in their marketing will hype the fact that it has a BD player built in. To the average consumer this would seem like a good deal: Pay the same amount or more for BD player or get the PS3.
I think that is what Sony is banking on. When the PS2 launched in Japan weren't a lot of buyers swayed into buying a PS2 because it could also act as a DVD player. I thought I read that somewhere. Could be wrong though.

My 2 cents.

 

[mozmo]

I guess one thing that people seem to forgo with ps3 pricing is the fact that the ps3 is a bluray trojan horse. Sony and quite a few studios see the ps3 as a way of making bluray a big success and enable them to sell a tonne of hd movies to the public. So sony may be willing to take more of a loss on ps3, because it's not just revenue on games, but with movies if they become the next gen hd standard it means a crap load of royalties for them.

MS on the other hand don't have any movie studios and their licencing interests in hd movies are no where as great as sony, so they have to charge like a wounded bull for accesories to make up those losses.

I wouldn't be surprised to a base ps3 unit at $299.

You can already see this effect with psp, where revenue and the success of umd movies has help the psp along.

 

[Ty]

Sony can pull a crazy move that i was thinking about for awhile

350$ ps3 core with no movie playback and u have to buy an over priced remote to use the movie playback .

Then sell a 100$ more package with playback .

Interesting. The same thing MS did with the original Xbox? I think Sony would need to provide "more in the package" than just unlocking BR play back but it _is_ an interesting idea. Hmm.

 

[jvd]

Interesting. The same thing MS did with the original Xbox? I think Sony would need to provide "more in the package" than just unlocking BR play back but it _is_ an interesting idea. Hmm.

It can help them reduce the cost of bluray so to speak .

Those with hdtvs that want to use the bluray shouldn't have a problem buying a 40$ remote and those who don't wnat it don't have to buy a more expensive system and at a later date they can allways buy the controller .

I don't see a 300$ price point from sony thoug h

 

[Powderkeg]

I guess one thing that people seem to forgo with ps3 pricing is the fact that the ps3 is a bluray trojan horse. Sony and quite a few studios see the ps3 as a way of making bluray a big success and enable them to sell a tonne of hd movies to the public. So sony may be willing to take more of a loss on ps3, because it's not just revenue on games, but with movies if they become the next gen hd standard it means a crap load of royalties for them.

MS on the other hand don't have any movie studios and their licencing interests in hd movies are no where as great as sony, so they have to charge like a wounded bull for accesories to make up those losses.

I wouldn't be surprised to a base ps3 unit at $299.

You can already see this effect with psp, where revenue and the success of umd movies has help the psp along.

I agree with you.

For Sony, there is much more at stake with the PS3 than the console itself. They've got the Bluray format, and Cell that they are also trying to push into widespread use. I've said before here that if they have to lose a billion dollars now to make Bluray the high defintion standard for movies, they won't hesitate to do it, since winning the format war over HD-DVD would be worth many times that amount.

I really do expect them to price the PS3 the same as the 360, even if it does mean they take massive losses the first 2 years or so.

 

[jvd]

I really do expect them to price the PS3 the same as the 360, even if it does mean they take massive losses the first 2 years or so.

The question is how much losses sony can take . Remember they are still loosing money on the psp and will continue to loose money on it at least into late 2006 if not 2007 .

So i dunno if i see a 300$ price point and I also don't see them needing that price point . If they do go into that price point I see ms hurting them badly . It gives ms permision to drop thier prices around that and ms will be very close to that 200$ magical point

 

[Dr. Meaty]

Sorry to derail your PS3 thread, but has anyone else noticed that Peter Moore looks exactly like Dennis Raider, the BTK guy?

 

[Shifty Geezer]

I guess one thing that people seem to forgo with ps3 pricing is the fact that the ps3 is a bluray trojan horse. Sony and quite a few studios see the ps3 as a way of making bluray a big success and enable them to sell a tonne of hd movies to the public. So sony may be willing to take more of a loss on ps3, because it's not just revenue on games, but with movies if they become the next gen hd standard it means a crap load of royalties for them.

More than a BRD trojan horse, they want PS3 as the de facto entertainment system with extra revenue fromdownloaded media (music, movies, connected to PSP too). They're looking to make money from lots of sources and not just games. So yes they want BRDs to sell, and people to use Connect to buy music onto PS3 MemStick to use on the go with PSP too, and all that jazz. I've suggested before they might take insane losses at launch, especially with 65 nm 'just around the corner' that a cost reduction might come quick enough to stem the massive losses.

This concept also places Sony in more need of getting HDDs out there than MS. Sony already have the content to deliver and have some delivery services in place. Downloadable PSP media is just coming out with streaming appearing later on. They seem to be making more inroads into media content delivery than MS. They need PS3 to sell as fast as they can make it to build up this internet market.

That said, $400 PS3 will still sell as many as Sony can initially lanuch. the question is how quick can the hardcore be satisfied leaving only a more price-conscious casual gamer looking at a $400 console? That's why Sony might take a bigger wallet hit. I don't think so though despite the argument.

 

[Powderkeg]

The question is how much losses sony can take . Remember they are still loosing money on the psp and will continue to loose money on it at least into late 2006 if not 2007 .

So i dunno if i see a 300$ price point and I also don't see them needing that price point . If they do go into that price point I see ms hurting them badly . It gives ms permision to drop thier prices around that and ms will be very close to that 200$ magical point

Sony, like Microsoft is a huge corporation that is in no threat of going bankrupt over a single console. they can afford to take years worth of massive losses, and would be very willing to do it if the long term goal of selling Bluray and Cell and making long term profits from all is achieved.

These guys look 5, 10, 20 years down the line. They aren't afraid to take a huge loss in year 1 or 2 of a product if they are earning twice that much by year 6-10. Sony spent over a billion dollars developing Cell, and almost that much again on Bluray. With that kind of investment into those two products, do you think they would want to see either fail in the market because they priced them out of the average consumers reach?

 

[mckmas8808]

Sony, like Microsoft is a huge corporation that is in no threat of going bankrupt over a single console. they can afford to take years worth of massive losses, and would be very willing to do it if the long term goal of selling Bluray and Cell and making long term profits from all is achieved.

These guys look 5, 10, 20 years down the line. They aren't afraid to take a huge loss in year 1 or 2 of a product if they are earning twice that much by year 6-10. Sony spent over a billion dollars developing Cell, and almost that much again on Bluray. With that kind of investment into those two products, do you think they would want to see either fail in the market because they priced them out of the average consumers reach?

This man is hot today. Somebody give him some water because he's on fire. Great points Powerkeg, great points.

 

[mckmas8808]

Just thought I would show you guys this if you haven't seen it yet.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Oh woe is me....i'm going to get that Silver Xbox360...if its the last thing I do!!!!!!11

PSP: Anyone have a pic of the chrome detials? I'm interested in what the "Premium" version looks like.

 

[J_Saint]

Why does the Core version have an X for the wireless controller? Typo?

 

[J_Saint]

Anyone have a pic of the chrome detials? I'm interested in what the "Premium" version looks like.

Premium bundle

 

[Farid]

PSP: Anyone have a pic of the chrome detials? I'm interested in what the "Premium" version looks like.

It's only on the DVD tray. The $399 version has the ugly chrome finish. The $299 is just white pearl like the rest of the machine.

 

[Farid]

Why does the Core version have an X for the wireless controller? Typo?

The core version comes with a wired controller. Yes, it's a typo.