Where is it evidenced that its custom/different to the PC version of the same name?
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Where is it evidenced that its custom/different to the PC version of the same name?
Absolutely possible. But what evidence is there of it?
Before we conclude that PS5 IGTI is better than PC ITGI and FSR, let's at least get some evidence that there is actually a difference there first.
I know NXG pushed that message in his Spiderman video but that was quite obviously comparing the different upscaling methods at significantly different internal resolutions.
I have not been pushing any narrative that there is a difference. This is the first post I have made on the situation. I would be interested in someone testing it though.
davis.anthony
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DF did in their Spiderman coverage.
Where is the evidence both implementations are identical? Why would they be identical as one has to run on myriads on PCs and the other on only one hardware? It's way more likely implementations are different.
Anyways NXGamer did state their implementation was quite different (PS5's solution being much better), but even he simply stated the fact without detailed analysis (like a pic comparison).
This is why someone must do such a comparison because in my experience even FRS 2.1 looks quite bad (relatively speaking because of artifacts) compared to what we can experience in Insomniac solutions on PS5.
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They both have the same name in the same game from the same developer. In the absence of any other information I don't think it makes any sense to simply assume the PS5 version is better.
Why even include it in the first place if its a totally different implementation that's worse than FSR. And in particular why call it the same thing in that case.
He had a video comparison which showed the PS5 looking far better. But he done it with DRS activated were the PC was below its frame rate target and would therefore have been aggressively dropping resolution. The lower base resolution was blatantly obvious in the comparison.
I agree a proper comparison would be great although DRS on the PS5 makes that tricky.
It's worth considering that most people's impression of IGTI on the consoles though is likely from sitting several feet away from a TV vs a couple of feet from a monitor in FSR's case. So people are more likely to notice and call out issues with FSR even if it is better.
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Why would there be, though? I can understand a potential performance cost difference between the two, but what is in the PS5 hardware that would make it function differently on PC?
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There are some downsides even comparing to DLSS. I created this video a while back comparing all methods available at the time, albeit it's focused on the problems that SM has with specular reflections and reconstruction methods on the PC so it's not exactly a fair overall assessment of IGTI vs DLSS/FSR as a whole. IME, DLSS can provide a sharper image with more details yes, but IGTI on the PS5 is the most consistent wrt to image stability - neither is perfect though. SM's DLSS implementation on the PC is...decent, but not stellar. Nixxes stated in an interview if I recall that IGTI was heavily tailored to the PS5 and DLSS didn't exactly fit into it that easily, so I can imagine FSR2 fares worse.
Obviously when we get into stuff like DLAA, especially with the improvements Nvidia has made recently, that changes things where even with these sub-optimal cases the pendulum will swing back into the PC's favour.
It’s possible Insomniac does something low level or exposes some functionality not feasible under DX12. The ID buffer for example.
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ID buffer maybe.
https://www-4gamer-net.translate.go...=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp heres a good talk about primitive shaders and mesh shaders on both ps5 and series x.. id say it clears some confusion people had..
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Firewall ultra use UE 5 and use deffered rendering
Do they use Lumen?
Does Firewall Ultra offer any ray tracing support?
First Contact Entertainment: That’s a great question. There is considerable real-time lighting in Ultra and that’s been an explicit focus for us. The combination of PS VR2 and PS5 has opened up much more potential for sophisticated lighting and shading.
I’m just going to say that wielding a true, real-time, shadow-casting flashlight in VR is an incredibly powerful and immersive tool.
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Sweet, I tried this a couple of years ago and it was good then, but my GPU struggled. Will absolutely have to give the upgraded demo a go on my new GPU when it releases.
I'd love to see them make an Xbox version of the demo. Or PS5, but I assume that an xbox port would be A. Simpler, and B. possible to do for free.
I forgot it was non-VR as well. I hope the UE5 version still supports VR in that case. Would that make it the first UE5 based VR experience?
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Newly announced sandbox MMO involving ex Eve devs, running on UE5. The village is player built. Or at least they hope it's what villages look like. If players can make towers look like willies, then that's all we'll see in every town. Willy towers.
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