the X360 Camera
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There's nothing technical that would have stopped MS from making the camera do at least 1024 rez at 30fps. USB2 would easily handle the datarate with a bit of simple compression. There's even been USB2 CMOS sensor controller chips capable of such performance available for ages, and instead MS gives us a piddly rotten repackaged PC webcam. I'm not impressed. If they want to like trumpet and shit, they could have advanced specs from the several years old Eyetoy.
I bet they're going to overcharge us for it too. Any takers on a $60-75 sticker price for a $35 PC webcam with a snazzy green ring of light around the (el cheapo manual focus) lens?
I bet they're going to overcharge us for it too. Any takers on a $60-75 sticker price for a $35 PC webcam with a snazzy green ring of light around the (el cheapo manual focus) lens?
The primary function of the camera isn't going to be internet chatting, but rather movement tracking and the like. And ~3x the amount of sensor pixels would have made a huge difference there.Griffith said:
Don't go and get all hung up on that "image processor" claim. Who knows what that thing really does anyway. For all we know it's little to no more advanced than the realtime compression that pretty much every webcam has.
Guden Oden said:
internet chatting is one of the feature of the camera, 1024@30 is useless
and for moviment tracking, the ms ing. have surely done a lot of tests to go with 640@30, have you done some tests to say that 640 is bad for moviment tracking of big objects as a hand?
dear friend, you are making confusion: realtime compression is done from a dsp,it is not an image processor, this is a whole different thing
but you says now "who knows" but before you say that this is a 35 $ pc cam with a snazzy green ring of light around the (el cheapo manual focus) lens selled for 60-75 $
curious, very very curious
With a higher res camera you can downsample for internet video, and compress it of course. That's not a reason to go for a lower resolution camera. I'm not sure of the point of a processor in camera either. Things like white balance and gamma correction should be done on the electronics and capture, not post image processing. And post image processing would be faster and more effective and more versatile on the XB360.Griffith said:
Higher than 30fps might be difficult because of light sensitivity. Any faster and the ability to capture grain-free images would be compromised. I guess for this maybe the image processor comes in and could be something like a hardware noise reduction processor to capture clearer outlines, which are what's needed for motion detection. Maybe a couple of filters like 5x5 median hardwired into the capture process?
I think I'd take lower res at better quality than vice versa. EyeToy has trouble with some situations that a more sensitive CCD would overcome. A decent lens would also be important, and autofocus would be a great idea too.
As for it's rival, EyeToy2, maybe Sony will include the euqipment used in their HDTV camcorder, so we can capture HD movies with theirs?
scooby_dooby
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Guden Oden said:
I completely disagree, I think thes e'interactive' eyetoy type games will never become more than a gimmicky niche.
Now, free video chat between all members on your friends list is something that appeals to almost everyone and certainly has the potential to be the primary function of the camera.
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Shifty Geezer said:As for it's rival, EyeToy2, maybe Sony will include the euqipment used in their HDTV camcorder, so we can capture HD movies with theirs?
wow the less expansive 720p camera cost around 5.000$ , they sure are going to to put the same equipment in a 60$ webcam.
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supervegeta
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Guden Oden said:
ha ha ha yeah sure why the fuck they can't sell a 3.000$ tecnology for 60$ ?
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