The Official, Long Awaited, TV Shows Thread

London Geezer said:
So I’ve been watching Euphoria. Anyone tried that? It’s quite jarring and triggering but my lord is it an amazing show, with amazing cast and basically the best soundtrack I’ve ever heard attached to a project.
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They must have a huge budget for getting music rights.

Second season, they're really paying INXS.
 
The Book of Boba Fett has been okay until episodes 5 and 6, which were GREAT.

Unless you want to see Boba Fett, :LOL:
 
DSoup said:
Such a weird choice to cast a different actor, film her using her voice, then hire Jen Taylor to re-voice the filmed actor but she sounded different.

This had to be the easiest CGI option ever. You have this character who is literally a sparkly hologram. Just make a CGI sparkly hologram and use Jen Taylor doing her actual Cortana voice. Is it just me that thinks she sounds quite different? I mean, it was only one line. Maybe it was just that line or how it was delivered. :???:

How can Jen Taylor not sound like Jen Taylor? :runaway: How can master Chief not sound like Master Chief. The two iconic voices of the franchise.:runaway:

It's ok.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine.. it'll be fine..
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Yeah, at times MC's voice in the trailer is close enough that I can almost imagine it's MC talking. At other times not so much.

And yes, a non-"CG holographic Cortana" makes no sense in my brain. They didn't even try to make her look like a holograph (like when R2D2 projected a holographic image of Obi Wan Kenobi in Episode IV for Leia). That's a cheap and easy cinematography trick for FX teams nowadays. That's far more jarring to me than the MC and Cortana's voices not being quite right.

However, other than that it looks promising. Although seeing a human saying that humanity should surrender to the Covenant while the flood appears to be killing humans in a room comes across as extremely weird as well. Perhaps there's a good plot reason why she would be saying that?

I really hope they do a good job, because there is so much Halo lore and material to draw from. Enough material that they could make multiple movies and shows and still have plenty of interesting material for future movies and shows. So, I hope they didn't ignore all of that to attempt to come up with their own original take on Halo.

The other concern I have is from the perspective of the script. The script appears to have been written from material used in Halo 4 and 5. For example, when someone asks whether the Master Chief can be trusted. Or when they comment that he's "controllable."

Regards,
SB
 
I'm very mildly excited by the only good thing in STD getting a spinoff as Strange New Worlds.

I've been watching Picard at a very pedestrian pace. It is a bit less annoying than STD, but it somehow feels like it should have been named Patrick Stewart and Friends instead. Just... Not right. I try to like it.
 
WhiningKhan said:
I'm very mildly excited by the only good thing in STD getting a spinoff as Strange New Worlds.

I've been watching Picard at a very pedestrian pace. It is a bit less annoying than STD, but it somehow feels like it should have been named Patrick Stewart and Friends instead. Just... Not right. I try to like it.
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I'm still on about the 7th episode, it's hard to bring myself to watch it. :(
 
The basic premise of Picard was good: what happens 30yrs (or whatever it is) in the future, with Romulan/Borg shenanigans going on.
But instead of continuing some of the best plot lines from TNG & DS9 its made by the same imbeciles who make Discovery/09 movies so its not just terrible its insulting & outright destructive to the legacy of TNG & the character Picard.

'But its not written for fans of TNG' they say
Well who the fuck is the target audience supposed to be who gives a damn about what Picard is up to 30yrs in the future from TNG other than TNG fans :?:

Lower Decks is great: its written by fans, it pokes fun at the history but its lovingly done. Its a celebration & slight expansion of the Trek legacy.

I'm not sure where they're going with Prodigy but their representation of canon ships is very good at least.
I'd even argue the subtle changes to the BoP in the Kobayashi Maru episode makes it a better than canon representation of the large K'vort type.


I've been slowly working my way through For all Mankind, its mostly very good & at least for the first season: this is how you write woke.


Which brings up a point I was going to make a while back but deleted the long rant I wrote:
Woke is not the problem.
Shitty writers trying to do woke when they are clueless idiots is the problem.
OK so I re-wrote the rant.
Discovery catches flak for its woke plotline eg trans & non-binary characters but the problem really isn't woke plots with trans & binary characters though, its shitty writing by idiots.
The proof? Find me someone who complains about Dax & Odo.
You can't because their respective trans & non-binary woke plots were written by good writers.

They were not just written well, it was done back in the 80s & 90s, I grew up with this stuff & more from before I was born.
These fucking ignoramuses think they're actually doing something new by having a black female senior officer/captain in Star Trek :nope:

Even worse: in their ignorant idiocy they don't just write woke badly they wind up destroying those older iconic characters.
I really reacted hard against the latest Terminator, not because of the wokeness but because they fucking actively destroyed the legacy of the great feminist character Sarah Connor.
Sarah Connor starts as a weak waitress lady physically & emotionally abused by her customers & boss, she nearly gets murdered, her life upended, abducted & technically raped by future guy but she overcomes it & winds up terminating the ultimate example of toxic masculinity which is Arnienator.
Its woke as heck and everyone loves it.
Their replacement for this legendary woke plot? Ignorant, junkie future lady who fails her task & weak waitress lady who remains weak waitress lady at the end, needs to be saved by legacy destroyed old Sarah & Arnienator.

Amongst the worst of the 'woke' in Discovery: the only really likeable characters they manage to write are the paternal white guys like Mirror universe captain guy (anti-hero), Pike (should have been a perfect target since in The Cage he is a bigoted, self-doubting douche whose toxic masculinity ironically actually saves the day. He absolutely shouldn't be the likeable paternal character who comes in & sorts out the mess the woke people made) & Future Admiral guy.

I get tempted to think its all actually a diabolically clever/evil anti-woke plot to masquerade as intentionally bad woke writers to discredit wokeness :runaway:
 
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Silent_Buddha said:
Although seeing a human saying that humanity should surrender to the Covenant while the flood appears to be killing humans in a room comes across as extremely weird as well. Perhaps there's a good plot reason why she would be saying that?
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This gave me Battlestar Galactica vibes. The OG, where the human is a collaborator, or the reboot where its not a human. Hopefully they are not retreating those plots but it's interesting that they've gone with a human representing the bad guys at all. Perhaps just an easier face to put a recognisable face on a key bad guy. The challenge with sci-fi where you have a lot of similar-looking aliens (Covenant) is making them distinct. You can do it with colours, scars and costume of course.

It was great seeing the pelicans and warthog done so well.
 
hoom said:
The basic premise of Picard was good: what happens 30yrs (or whatever it is) in the future, with Romulan/Borg shenanigans going on.
But instead of continuing some of the best plot lines from TNG & DS9 its made by the same imbeciles who make Discovery/09 movies so its not just terrible its insulting & outright destructive to the legacy of TNG & the character Picard.

'But its not written for fans of TNG' they say
Well who the fuck is the target audience supposed to be who gives a damn about what Picard is up to 30yrs in the future from TNG other than TNG fans :?:

Lower Decks is great: its written by fans, it pokes fun at the history but its lovingly done. Its a celebration & slight expansion of the Trek legacy.

I'm not sure where they're going with Prodigy but their representation of canon ships is very good at least.
I'd even argue the subtle changes to the BoP in the Kobayashi Maru episode makes it a better than canon representation of the large K'vort type.


I've been slowly working my way through For all Mankind, its mostly very good & at least for the first season: this is how you write woke.


Which brings up a point I was going to make a while back but deleted the long rant I wrote:
Woke is not the problem.
Shitty writers trying to do woke when they are clueless idiots is the problem.
OK so I re-wrote the rant.
Discovery catches flak for its woke plotline eg trans & non-binary characters but the problem really isn't woke plots with trans & binary characters though, its shitty writing by idiots.
The proof? Find me someone who complains about Dax & Odo.
You can't because their respective trans & non-binary woke plots were written by good writers.

They were not just written well, it was done back in the 80s & 90s, I grew up with this stuff & more from before I was born.
These fucking ignoramuses think they're actually doing something new by having a black female senior officer/captain in Star Trek :nope:

Even worse: in their ignorant idiocy they don't just write woke badly they wind up destroying those older iconic characters.
I really reacted hard against the latest Terminator, not because of the wokeness but because they fucking actively destroyed the legacy of the great feminist character Sarah Connor.
Sarah Connor starts as a weak waitress lady physically & emotionally abused by her customers & boss, she nearly gets murdered, her life upended, abducted & technically raped by future guy but she overcomes it & winds up terminating the ultimate example of toxic masculinity which is Arnienator.
Its woke as heck and everyone loves it.
Their replacement for this legendary woke plot? Ignorant, junkie future lady who fails her task & weak waitress lady who remains weak waitress lady at the end, needs to be saved by legacy destroyed old Sarah & Arnienator.

Amongst the worst of the 'woke' in Discovery: the only really likeable characters they manage to write are the paternal white guys like Mirror universe captain guy (anti-hero), Pike (should have been a perfect target since in The Cage he is a bigoted, self-doubting douche whose toxic masculinity ironically actually saves the day. He absolutely shouldn't be the likeable paternal character who comes in & sorts out the mess the woke people made) & Future Admiral guy.

I get tempted to think its all actually a diabolically clever/evil anti-woke plot to masquerade as intentionally bad woke writers to discredit wokeness :runaway:
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Yep. You nailed it.
 
hoom said:
I've been slowly working my way through For all Mankind, its mostly very good & at least for the first season: this is how you write woke.
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Yes, the first season was well written. But I suggest moderation of expectations for watching the second season.
 
Mariner said:
I quite liked Picard, and didn't mind the relatively slow buildup, though I wasn't overly impressed with the final few episodes.
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Got my shit together and watched the 2 last episodes. They kind of reminded me of Insurrection and Nemesis, as in being sort of Trek but the worst kind. STD isn't even that.

Patrick Stewart is such a treasure, but all the time I felt it was him and not Picard. Having everything else around him violating the Trek universe in various ways didn't help.
 
hoom said:
The basic premise of Picard was good: what happens 30yrs (or whatever it is) in the future, with Romulan/Borg shenanigans going on.
But instead of continuing some of the best plot lines from TNG & DS9 its made by the same imbeciles who make Discovery/09 movies so its not just terrible its insulting & outright destructive to the legacy of TNG & the character Picard.

'But its not written for fans of TNG' they say
Well who the fuck is the target audience supposed to be who gives a damn about what Picard is up to 30yrs in the future from TNG other than TNG fans :?:

Lower Decks is great: its written by fans, it pokes fun at the history but its lovingly done. Its a celebration & slight expansion of the Trek legacy.

I'm not sure where they're going with Prodigy but their representation of canon ships is very good at least.
I'd even argue the subtle changes to the BoP in the Kobayashi Maru episode makes it a better than canon representation of the large K'vort type.


I've been slowly working my way through For all Mankind, its mostly very good & at least for the first season: this is how you write woke.


Which brings up a point I was going to make a while back but deleted the long rant I wrote:
Woke is not the problem.
Shitty writers trying to do woke when they are clueless idiots is the problem.
OK so I re-wrote the rant.
Discovery catches flak for its woke plotline eg trans & non-binary characters but the problem really isn't woke plots with trans & binary characters though, its shitty writing by idiots.
The proof? Find me someone who complains about Dax & Odo.
You can't because their respective trans & non-binary woke plots were written by good writers.

They were not just written well, it was done back in the 80s & 90s, I grew up with this stuff & more from before I was born.
These fucking ignoramuses think they're actually doing something new by having a black female senior officer/captain in Star Trek :nope:

Even worse: in their ignorant idiocy they don't just write woke badly they wind up destroying those older iconic characters.
I really reacted hard against the latest Terminator, not because of the wokeness but because they fucking actively destroyed the legacy of the great feminist character Sarah Connor.
Sarah Connor starts as a weak waitress lady physically & emotionally abused by her customers & boss, she nearly gets murdered, her life upended, abducted & technically raped by future guy but she overcomes it & winds up terminating the ultimate example of toxic masculinity which is Arnienator.
Its woke as heck and everyone loves it.
Their replacement for this legendary woke plot? Ignorant, junkie future lady who fails her task & weak waitress lady who remains weak waitress lady at the end, needs to be saved by legacy destroyed old Sarah & Arnienator.

Amongst the worst of the 'woke' in Discovery: the only really likeable characters they manage to write are the paternal white guys like Mirror universe captain guy (anti-hero), Pike (should have been a perfect target since in The Cage he is a bigoted, self-doubting douche whose toxic masculinity ironically actually saves the day. He absolutely shouldn't be the likeable paternal character who comes in & sorts out the mess the woke people made) & Future Admiral guy.

I get tempted to think its all actually a diabolically clever/evil anti-woke plot to masquerade as intentionally bad woke writers to discredit wokeness :runaway:
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To be fair to std, they are bad not just at the "woke" elements. But also bad in a lot of other elements too.
 
Just finished watching season 1 of "BULGASAL: IMMORTAL SOULS", a well made Netflix Korean series currently appearing on streaming sites. Very gripping storyline pulls you in, won't let you go!
Follows a dark theme throughout with elements of monsters, immortality and reincarnation. Very much looking forward to season 2.
 
DSoup said:
It's get EVEN BETTER! :runaway:
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I’m not sure better per se, but I 100% know what you mean! But it is almost too much and too all over the place to get it to be called better. This is a weird season for any kind of series. Such a careful and slow buildup for Boba and then these last two seasons … wow. I can see where it is going to some extent but pfff.

So far though certainly got me excited to see the next episode much more than in the beginning.
 
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