The non-standard game interfaces discussion thread (move, voice, vitality, etc.)

They are kind of expensive at Amazon

I think I will wait. Never heard of ShopTo before. Gonna check it out

 

ShopTo has worked very well for me. Great prices and delivery. Found out about them through Eurogamer, where they displaced Play as the recommended retail partner. Play's prices are no longer competitive.

 

Wrong thread

 

Anton Mikhailov discusses Kinect, Wii and Move. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-27-sony-why-we-turned-down-kinect-interview

 

Another sales milestone... 2.5 million Kinect sold in 25 days...

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/news/article.aspx?Feed=PR&Date=20101129&ID=12459319&Symbol=MSFT

Tommy McClain

 

I know that they're only responding to interviewer questioning, but it feel somewhat strange that both Richard Marks, and now Anton, are spending a considerable amount of time and effort in explaining why they (and Sony) didn't take a Natal-like route into motion gaming.

Now I appreciate their views on Kinect, but it is starting to feel like something of a defense mechanism, that somehow they feel threatened by Kinect. Usually when one mouthpiece from Sony or MS speaks of the other company, it's a short jibe and then back onto their own product. The last time I can recall any kind of sustained attacks or comments between these two companies was by MS trying to explain why Blu Ray was overkill, technologically challenging and something consumers didn't really want in a gaming machine.

 

That strategy has never, never worked for any video game add-on.

Unless it takes off right away, it's doomed to a slow death. It's a catch-22 -- developers won't waste their time developing for something that has no market, and there's no market because there's no good games for it.

A botched launch (which I think at this point the Move probably qualifies with their complicated (and expensive) configurations, lack of appealing games to most people, and a terrible marketing job) dooms a product in this market.

 

Perhaps, Asher, but Move is sold out everywhere around here.

At least the individual controllers are.

 

Where are you?

It's hard to find the individual controllers here also, but there's tons and tons of starter kits, nav controllers. etc. It's just another part of the bundled launch -- poor SKU allocation.

 

What I like was that he defined exactly how good the tech would have to be for them to consider it good enough to go to market (we don't normally get that detail.) This doesn't seem to be the same as what a lot of the public thinks is good enough, but I appreciate them having a standard they live by.

 

Here in Jersey I can walk into just about any gamestop or bestbuy and walk out with a bundle. Extra controllers are another thing all together. However I remember at launch extra controllers being rare. So I wonder how many people are still trying to find 1 or 2 controllers for multiplayer games after buying a bundle.

I really don't see much interest in the move from casuals. I think its just to similar to the wii and it doesn't really have any killer title yet. They just need a game that really hits it off with people to get them into it. I just have no idea what it is.

I think MS has a diffrent battle ahead of them. I think the casuals love it cause its diffrent enough from the move and wii by virtue of having no controller. That people want to pick it up. However I think until they get that one hardcore title to spark with the core gamer it wont ever make it out of a niche market for them

 

Last time I went into mediamarkt they finally had a good shipment in it seems, plenty of stock there for a while for the bundles, though not the single Move controllers (has been the reverse for weeks). They also had a Move setup to play with, but it's very bad - the Move is anchored to a heavy metal cable! That doesn't make Sports Championship a very good game - better for something like Start-the-Party.

 

The question I have who who is instigating these feedbacks? Is this Sony going forth to talk about how rubbish Kinect is, or Sony putting forwards their engineers to talk about Move and journalists changing topic to Kinect? Every one of these interviews is the same, and there's no new information, so why are Anton and Richard still doing the rounds?

 

Eurogamer investigated Kinect suitability in four staff homes. shows what some people have to contend with. Although I do wonder, when they say, "this is my game room," do they not have a larger room they could be using? The idea of Kinect is to take centre stage in the largest room used for main daily living.

 

Never? I'm sure Singstar was not an immediate success was it?

But let's be honest, console add-ons are rarely a success - I suggest MS marketed Kinect very well and is why it's selling well, maybe Sony should have done more to promote Move...but it seems to be doing OK and there's no reason to think it won't snowball at this moment in time...what's to say as the software choice improves people won't ditch their Wiis for the box that 'does everything'?

 

They're saying "this is my 'gaming space'" as in this is where we play our games. It's generally not really feasible to change that drastically just for Kinect's sake. I think though that they were generous towards Kinect - Ellie basically can't play because of her downstairs neighbours, but she still got a good score.

Meanwhile, Sony's posting some numbers in response. Sure, they're not selling as fast, but they're doing well and this time they specify "It does not include sales of the stand-alone PlayStation Eye camera or the stand-alone PlayStation Move navigation controller."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-30-sony-over-4-1-million-moves-sold

 

I'm pleased Move is doing well. Should hopefully see continuous growth and not fizzle out, unlike EyeToy, which in turn will mean more cameras, which in turn will hopefully mean more camera-based gaming developments.

 

Glad both systems have gone the motion gaming route. I now don't have to purchase a Wii ( good system just not to my liking). Sony may have problems with getting a count of how the Move is selling through to consumers though:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/30/sony-ships-4-1-million-playstation-move-controllers-to-retailers/