What's that with direct access to servers? Transmit from the POS system to sales tracking HQ, and make a deal that compensates you for the hassle. Not rocket science. Japanese retail can do it just fine, and scale really isn't a factor as much as technology.
*spin-off* NPD to no longer release HW/SW sales numbers
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The user base will simply continue to grow at similar rate unless you have a hit (like Halo 3 this month, or probably GT5 "soon" [Ha ha]).
Move and Kinect are currently limited by their supply, so existing user base should not be an issue at all. In other ways, Wii's casual user base may not matter to some developers anyway despite its larger base.
Developers who want to make cross platform games will just find the common functionalities between Move, Kinect and even Wii (plus or minus some features).
OTOH, if the combined market continues to decline, then the developers may have to look elsewhere for more growth (at may be lower cost of development).
While the combined market declined, most of that can be attributed to a single platform. So certainly developers may be looking to shift.
I thought many developers have already shied away from Wii earlier. So Wii's portion may not affect these devs that much (It's old news to them). For PS3 and 360 core base, they seem to be chugging along. It seems that some devs have decided to focus resources on quality, and may be cut down on number of releases.
However mobile and social gaming have received quite a bit of attention due to their growth lately. So developers are likely to act/change/react more there.
Silent_Buddha
Legend
It's too bad it just lumps "mobile, online, digital, and second-hand" into one sum. It would be interesting to see how much each is compared to the current off the shelf numbers we get. Would be really interested to see how large the second-hand market is, and how large the digital distribution share is.
Regards,
SB
Regards,
SB
Yeah, their logic only makes sense if they were willing to release some details of the digital report for free, along with the retail report details they used to give. That would do a much better job of combating the "angst".
But by keeping both reports now under lock and key, they're showing they really just want to sell more.
I didn't see any NPD leak yet this month. So it's NPD 1 leakers 0 I guess.
Yes I meant old style, illegal, numbers in detail leaks.
We used to get plenty of leaked NPD numbers on GAF, pre NPD officially releasing them. For all sorts of games not just top ten. (Usually people would request particular games of interest, and the leaker would provide). Bunkum and Crazybuttocksonatrain were two usernames I recall as leakers.
Sony with more BS ship numbers
Pachter said they sold 300k in USA. Then there's Canada 10% of the US market tops, and Latin America essentially nonexistent (PS3 just launched there recently! And current gen consoles are absurdly high priced there)
Well the 300k number was september, I heard a 500k number in mid october for the US. So their sell through could be around 700k by now for NA/Latin. With the 100+ in each walmart here, 1million certainly seems reasonable.
Yes I suppose, that's the whole "ship versus sales" thing. With holiday coming up they can be shipping a lot to prepare.
Yes, that's the thing to remember about shipped numbers. You don't keep shipping if no-one's buying. Now at launch it is possible that the retailers thought Move would sell, bought a load, and now they're sat in shops and warehouses. But once the sales start to pass through and retailers appreciate what the demand is, their buying will become tailored to demand. So basically, at the end of a generation of devices you'll end up with however many thousands in stock that they have trouble shipping, but overall the manufactured and shipped figures will be pretty much what ended up in people's houses or on landfill unless the manufacturer is the sort of company that makes excess stuff and leaves it lying around a desert because no-one wants to buy it!
Although 2 million isn't Move's 1 month sell through, it shows a healthy interest by retail and if Sony are needing to keep up with demand, they do actually have a buying market.
Although 2 million isn't Move's 1 month sell through, it shows a healthy interest by retail and if Sony are needing to keep up with demand, they do actually have a buying market.
Silent_Buddha
Legend
Unless you are trying to boost stock price of your company in spite of what may happen long term. Not something we're in danger of Sony doing, but it has happened and continues to happen from time to time. Media Vision and the Pro Audio Spectrum line of audio add in cards for PC always come to mind whenever I see discussions over shipped/ordered versus sold at retail numbers.
When the SEC finally cracked down on them they had warehouses (plural) full of shipped/ordered product collecting dust.
Regards,
SB
corduroygt
Banned
Sony with more BS ship numbers
Pachter said they sold 300k in USA. Then there's Canada 10% of the US market tops, and Latin America essentially nonexistent (PS3 just launched there recently! And current gen consoles are absurdly high priced there)
You believe Pachter's guesses over Sony's shipped numbers, or just whatever shows Sony in an unfavorable light?
They shipped (and got paid for) 2.5M moves. That's all that matters to them. Retailers won't order more if they don't sell. Given that it's out of stock in many places and distribution channels aren't that inefficient, they've sold a lot. They were even mulling increasing production the other day.
I say not bad for something that doesn't have any compelling software besides the pack-in yet.