Sony VR Headset/Project Morpheus/PlayStation VR

[Deleted member 86764]

Yes, that's why both the Rift and Vive seem like US only products regarding viability for now. I think Sony will do much better globally.

The Vive and Oculus are not (at least for the moment) going to be available in standard shops for a while. Specialist stores will have it for some obscene price mind.

So yeah, the Sony VR is definitely more mass market.

 

[orangpelupa]

For the record, this is how shopping works in the UK: you buy something that costs £349, the price is £349, you pay £349. Then maybe, sometimes, if you're lucky, at the very end the seller goes "by the way, out of those £349, £58 was tax. Thank you. Bring your money back soon!"

In my country around 25% is tax because considered as high class / prestigious item.

Luckily most game store sells Grey market PS. On some game stores that sells official PS, they also sells the Grey market version

So our prices usually straight from USD MSRP (without tax) converted to our currency.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

In my country around 25% is tax because considered as high class / prestigious item.

And you should only use PSVR only while wearing a monocle and top hat

 

[orangpelupa]

oh crazy, oh that actually makes sense. It's up to the TV to display it. Right, that's why different TVs have different types of 3D glasses, some active, some passive etc.

US Amazon is simmilar today. +1000% for PS4 camera [#14 on the overal best seller list], while two Move packages got +500%.


Looking at the image, I think that included earbuds are made specifically for PSVR. Its cabling is very short.

As for watching 3D movies in VR space, many VR Cinema apps on PC support that feature. Users who tried it report that 3D reproduction of movies is excellent.

It's already beautiful even in cardboard watching 3d monies

 

[eastmen]

CEX and Game give 12mths warranty with their 2nd hand consoles.

do they pay exterminator costs when the roach eggs in the system hatch and take over your home ?

That is what I was talking about . Working there was disgusting and showed me people are disgusting

 

[eastmen]

And i was correct in assuming that the VR technology doesn't cost as much as they want us to believe it does.

Sony Will Sell PlayStation VR At A Profit, Not As A Loss Leader

Wasn't Palmer saying they're selling the Rift at a loss? Even At $600, Oculus Isn't Making Money On The Rift VR Headset

I'm sure Oculus would make a profit if they sold required components on their own . Can you imagine buying a vive and then needing to buy the controllers and light house on their own ?

 

[London Geezer]

do they pay exterminator costs when the roach eggs in the system hatch and take over your home ?

That is what I was talking about . Working there was disgusting and showed me people are disgusting

I thought you were joking! Is this for real??

 

[Deleted member 86764]

Unless the UK doesn't charge customs duty then you'd have to pay more for the Rift, i'm not so sure about Vive though.

Yep, looks like @pjbliverpool will be paying another £85ish.

 

[Clukos]

and showed me people are disgusting

The faster you learn that, the better. People suck, even though there are exceptions!

I'm sure Oculus would make a profit if they sold required components on their own . Can you imagine buying a vive and then needing to buy the controllers and light house on their own ?

Eh, Palmer said the peripherals don't cost them at all, it's all on the rift apparently, which is absurd.

 

[DieH@rd]

One of the reasons why PS4 found so much early success can be attributed to the wide launch. Sony supported so many countries

The Vive and Oculus are not (at least for the moment) going to be available in standard shops for a while. Specialist stores will have it for some obscene price mind.

So yeah, the Sony VR is definitely more mass market.

One of the reasons why PS4 found so much early success can be attributed to the very wide launch. Sony supported so many countries early, even so that Japan was one of the last places that got PS4.

 

[wco81]

The Vive and Oculus are not (at least for the moment) going to be available in standard shops for a while. Specialist stores will have it for some obscene price mind.

So yeah, the Sony VR is definitely more mass market.

They may need to bundle ginger candies and barf bags with OR kits:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/...-preview-event-suffers-from-vr-tracking-woes/

 

[DieH@rd]

Gaffer Occam contacted Amazon Germany:

"According to a customer rep I just spoke with, Amazon Germany had by far the largest Playstation VR allotment of Europe (taking into account that the German division is responsible for Germany, Austria and Switzerland), and they actually sold out in 25 seconds. Amazon was apparently surprised by the very high demand in the German-speaking market. Especially Austrian customers bought a lot. (Of course they didn't tell me any numbers).

They already spoke with Sony and they will get a second allotment (no specific date was given; if you are on the notification list, you will receive an email beforehand).

So if you are in Germany and would like to preorder at Amazon, you will get a second chance."
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1197724

 

[MrFox]

I thought you were joking! Is this for real??

Amazing sequence of arguments here...
- PSVR is less expensive than PCVR
- Not if you buy a used GPU on ebay
- You can also buy a used console, this argument is stupid.
- Used consoles have roaches, so you must add the cost of exterminators for your home!
- Here's the cost of used consoles from resellers
- Nu huh! Used consoles have roaches taking over your home!
- Wait you are serious??!?!?!

 

[Deleted member 11852]

Frankly, I'm not seeing a downside to VR.

 

[Scott_Arm]

Sony said there will be bundles, but those have not been decided yet. Retailers can also make bundles themselves without having problems with managing different SKUs.

It requires the camera, and it requires a PS4, some games require Move (DS4 is expected to be the most popular control for PSVR, probably for all AAA games). The camera isn't bundles because millions of us already own any combination of one, two, or all three of those requirements. The camera sold well because it's used primarily for video chat. There's no way to make a universal bundle, there are too many permutations.

The same thing would have happened if XB1 made a VR headset that requires Kinect. Some have it, some don't.

Yep, when I preordered Vive, it was $1200 CAD just for the Vive, then I had to upgrade my 780 which wasn't meeting the minimum requirements, another $400 CAD to sidegrade a GPU I had already paid $500 for only 2 years ago. I just gave up until I upgrade my PC for something better than the minumum.

$550 CAD to get into VR on my PS4
$1600 CAD to get Vive for my PC
I'll definitely have both eventually, but holy shit that costs a lot. And this is before tax!

I love this stuff, because I'm a nerd. Buying in, on PS4 or PC would just be financially irresponsible for me. PS4 is the cheapest route and it still costs over $1K CAD because I need the console. The 2nd generation of headsets will hopefully be significantly cheaper, including all of the controllers and cameras necessary.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

The 2nd generation of headsets will hopefully be significantly cheaper, including all of the controllers and cameras necessary.

I don't think this will be the case at all. The 2nd generation of headsets will likely work with many of the accessories from the 1st generation of headsets making it even less likely for everything to come bundled in because there will be folks wanting to upgrade the headset and nothing else.

I'm certain bundles will happen but I think it's more likely that retailers will be creating the bundles.

 

[Scott_Arm]

I don't think this will be the case at all. The 2nd generation of headsets will likely work with many of the accessories from the 1st generation of headsets making it even less likely for everything to come bundled in because there will be folks wanting to upgrade the headset and nothing else.

I'm certain bundles will happen but I think it's more likely that retailers will be creating the bundles.

I'm referring to the total solution being cheap, not them being bundled in the same box. I'm hoping the costs of the controls and necessary cameras come down as well.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

I'm referring to the total solution being cheap, not them being bundled in the same box. I'm hoping the costs of the controls and necessary cameras come down as well.

Ah I see. Accessories are generally juicy profit so there's scope to shave a lot off. I got my PS4 camera essentially free because my PS4 launch bundle had two DualShock 4 controllers, Killzone and the camera for the price of the PS4, two controllers and game which I was buying anyway. I guess it depends how well PSVR is selling compared to Sony's expectations and how developers are responding.

Generally I wouldn't expect Sony to lower the price for anything that is meeting/exceeding their expectations but they need software support and I wonder if developers will be reluctant to really commit to VR until the user base is sizeable. VR may well be exciting the public but publishers will be looking at much riskier investments in VR with a minuscule install base compared to just knocking out a PS4 game. We may see Sony having to push out a bundle (headset/camera/Move) equivalent to zero-profit just to get the PSVR install-base to a point where developers are happier to embrace it, i.e. largely the same economics as consoles themselves.

It'll be interesting to watch for sure.

 

[eastmen]

The faster you learn that, the better. People suck, even though there are exceptions!


Eh, Palmer said the peripherals don't cost them at all, it's all on the rift apparently, which is absurd.

I thought you were joking! Is this for real??

NO I am deadly serious. The other thing I learned as a computer tech for a school district. Never ever share head phones. Lice spreads like hell. When I'm at a trade show I buy hair spray (lice doesn't like it) and I buy lice shampoo to make sure I don't get anything

 

[eastmen]

Amazing sequence of arguments here...
- PSVR is less expensive than PCVR
- Not if you buy a used GPU on ebay
- You can also buy a used console, this argument is stupid.
- Used consoles have roaches, so you must add the cost of exterminators for your home!
- Here's the cost of used consoles from resellers
- Nu huh! Used consoles have roaches taking over your home!
- Wait you are serious??!?!?!

You can buy controllers and gpus on ebay cause you can inspect them easily. I don't imagine most people want to open up a ps4 and check every crack for roach eggs. They can also get into the bluray drive and nest inside it and those are a pain to open up.

Its not fun at all . We used to spray them and then put them in black garbage bags for weeks to make sure they were all dead.