Sony sees large loss on PS3 start-up
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Titanio said:And that "pathetic company" has shot to the top in terms of LCD TV marketshare, overtaking Samsung, in a very short period of time. Oh the embarassment for Samsung..
One thing to remember is that Sony TVs use Samsung panels so the Koreans are still making their money one way or another!
As regards earlier posts about 2.5"/3.5" hard discs, the 2.5" discs do run quite a bit cooler and draw less power than the 3.5" discs. I'd imagine this might be another reason for their usage in addition to space contraints. Anything to reduce the power draw of the new consoles must be seen as a good thing.
Phil said:
Yes, Samsung's panels are Sony's panels and vice versa. They are all made together by a joint venture between Sony and Samsung.
So, in discussions, you usually see people from each side saying "But Sony's TVs use Samsung panels, Samsung is the best!!", and others going "Samsung TVs use Sony's panels, cause Sony make the best panels"...
The panels are Sony/Samsung.
Sonsung panels, or Samsony panels...
In the end we all know why Sony and Samsung LCD HDTVs are so different in quality and price. The physical panel is really not the most important aspect in an LCD TV. As long as it is of a certain quality, which in this case they are!
It's the processing behind those TVs that's the real star, and that's where the Bravia's excell, and also one of few reasons why Sony can charge much more for their TVs.
It's the processing behind those TVs that's the real star, and that's where the Bravia's excell, and also one of few reasons why Sony can charge much more for their TVs.
NANOTEC said:
They're great TVs for the price they're sold at. Definately not "crappy". Always amazing value. But obviously there are much better TVs out there, technically, which cost a lot more of course. A Bravia or a Panny VIERA can sometimes cost you double the same-size equivalent of a Sammy, depending on the models.
"Right out of the gate"? Do we actually know if GC made them a profit on launch date and were not sold at a loss? I'd be very surprised if that's the case.
Handhelds are different.
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The new Samsung R7 series seem to be getting very good reviews (undoubtedly the same panel as some Sony or other). Just a pity they only have one HDMI socket.
I did have my heart set on a Toshiba WLT66 but they don't seem to be able to support 1:1 pixel mapping so I might have to go the Samsung route. Can't afford a Sony or a Panasonic!
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The new Samsung R7 series seem to be getting very good reviews (undoubtedly the same panel as some Sony or other). Just a pity they only have one HDMI socket.
I did have my heart set on a Toshiba WLT66 but they don't seem to be able to support 1:1 pixel mapping so I might have to go the Samsung route. Can't afford a Sony or a Panasonic!
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Titanio said:
Could be, I mean we knew that they are going to take a hit with it, so taking that in to account it's clear that the pricing is aggressive. The question is how aggressive, I would quess that the projected loss is mainly because of the hit they take on each PS3... So they are projected to sell 6million units till the end of their fiscal year and expect to make about 900M$ loss, that would make the loss close to 150$ per unit, I know this is very simple math, but probably the initial loss per unit is in that ballpark, maybe little more if they can make some money of the games and stuff, so I quess they'll lose 200$ per unit, however because we don't know for sure how much PS3 is going to cost, or how much it takes to make one, we are still in the dark.
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well, if you cant avoid the inevitable, might as well accept it and brace for it.
at least this adds credibility to the fact that they're dead-serious about a Nov. launch....no more beating around the bush, no more misleading-they dont really have anymore room for either
at least this adds credibility to the fact that they're dead-serious about a Nov. launch....no more beating around the bush, no more misleading-they dont really have anymore room for either
Titanio said:What a silly statement. That kind of talk might have been more credible a couple of years ago, but Sony's results have improved greatly, not least this year. These results beat forecasts, there's now talk among analysts of a proper recovery materialising.
Not to mention that Samsung's net profit is nowhere near 20x Sony's. Sony made about $1bn last year, Samsung was forecast to make ~$9bn. And that "pathetic company" has shot to the top in terms of LCD TV marketshare, overtaking Samsung, in a very short period of time. Oh the embarassment for Samsung..
That is pretty surprising that Sony overtook Samsung in LCD market share, wasn't Samsung's LCD tech far more advanced than Sony's? For that matter, didn't Sony get an agreement with Samsung to be able to use their panels for its TVs?
You know London-boy, do you ever feel your just talking into the wind?
Fox5 : post #26 in this very thread...
Fox5 : post #26 in this very thread...
Shifty Geezer said:
Heh, sometimes i feel like i'm actually writing in russian here.
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