Sony Press Conference 2011

If Sony does that then I'd imagine Nintendo would do the same thing. Certainly might make it more convenient to have multi-tablet gaming sessions if you already own an iPad/Nook. The problem that the PS3 has is that uses 802.11g wireless and supposedly has lag issues when doing remote play with PSP. However the 360s has Wifi-N...maybe that's a contender?
 
Can you ask them if Medieval Move is on-rail ? Looks that way to us but in case there is optional navcon or second Move controller support.

I asked him, it's on rails, no navcon support. Saw a bunch of games at the show, on the Sony side I'd say Resistance 3 was the standout, it looked really good from what they were showing.
 
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I asked him, it's on rails, no navcon support. Saw a bunch of games at the show, on the Sony side I'd say Resistance 3 was the standout, it looked really good from what they were showing.

Glad to hear it. Resistance 2 disappointed me, but I like what I've seen of R3 so far. Time to see what Insomniac can do with a longer dev cycle.
 
I asked him, it's on rails, no navcon support. Saw a bunch of games at the show, on the Sony side I'd say Resistance 3 was the standout, it looked really good from what they were showing.

Yay !

If Sony does that then I'd imagine Nintendo would do the same thing. Certainly might make it more convenient to have multi-tablet gaming sessions if you already own an iPad/Nook. The problem that the PS3 has is that uses 802.11g wireless and supposedly has lag issues when doing remote play with PSP. However the 360s has Wifi-N...maybe that's a contender?

WiFi N can be added with an adaptor. But if I were to do it, I'd do more than just add a WiFi N adaptor. ^_^
IMHO, Sony hasn't gone far enough to realize the original PS3 vision yet.

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You mean the button mapping on touch screens?

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Oh you must mean that one?
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topi...nd-stereoscopic-3d-capability-update-5?page=0

Not sure if thats what they had in mind with that

Yes. If you look at the original patent, you'll see mentions of cellphones and other portable devices. I remember there is a picture with cellphone on the stand too.

They want to bring Playstation Suite to Android, iOS devices and Playstations. It's natural for these devices to interact/use each other.
 
If there's value in Sony's system, some will just sell their 3DS away. I don't think ownership will stop Vita. If the user asks for Pokemon, Vita can't help. If the user wants Sony and prettier games, then 3DS may fall short.

For tablets, the value is very clear after owning it for 2 years. Comfortable web surfing, TV watching say... in bed, in car, hotel and anywhere with net access. Second is to cuddle with family members and play games together. We all poke our fingers at the plants and zombies in the final levels of Plants vs Zombies. It is the anti-thesis of motion gaming. Over here you have a quick, direct manipulation UI, and huddle together to play. In motion gaming, I have to make space to prevent kicking my kid in the chin :LOL:

Reading on tablets is good too but the screen may be too glaring. You'll need to adjust the brightness.

Is this an epiphany "if a user wants Sony...3DS may fall short"? I don't even know what to make out of "I don't think ownership will stop Vita" what.does.that.mean? You don't think 3DS ownership will stop people from buying Vita because they are just going to trade in the 3DS or what?

3DS ownership is NOT booming but I get the sense that you are of the belief that Vita will be different which then leads us back to the "value" arguments. $250/$300 and $40+ games is simply too much for handhelds that are not going to replace the phone you have or the tablet you already have but that is my value argument.
 
Is this an epiphany "if a user wants Sony...3DS may fall short"? I don't even know what to make out of "I don't think ownership will stop Vita" what.does.that.mean? You don't think 3DS ownership will stop people from buying Vita because they are just going to trade in the 3DS or what?

3DS ownership is NOT booming but I get the sense that you are of the belief that Vita will be different which then leads us back to the "value" arguments. $250/$300 and $40+ games is simply too much for handhelds that are not going to replace the phone you have or the tablet you already have but that is my value argument.

Errr... no. If you follow other fora posts, you'll find that people sell and buy back consoles based on their needs. It sounds like you're unsure of your own 3DS investment. I'm just saying some will just sell 3DS back if they feel disappointed. In similar vein, they will also sell Vita back if they are disappointed. So ownership is not really a showstopper.

The availability and quality of the software/services is the driver for perceived value.
 
Errr... no. If you follow other fora posts, you'll find that people sell and buy back consoles based on their needs. It sounds like you're unsure of your own 3DS investment. I'm just saying some will just sell 3DS back if they feel disappointed. In similar vein, they will also sell Vita back if they are disappointed. So ownership is not really a showstopper.

The availability and quality of the software/services is the driver for perceived value.

I don't think I'm going out on a limb to suggest that the mobile/tablet market is going to significantly shrink the console handheld market especially when the console handheld market as far as hardware is matching/exceeding the phone/tablet price point this is before we even get into software costs. EDIT: This isn't to say that no one will make money in the handheld market but there is no way I would forecast selling the prior (current) generations unit numbers.
 
It's unfortunate so little in terms of new functionality has been added. I wish there was more talk of what remains on their FW roadmap because things have slowed down considerably.

The visible major additions for the past one year are WebKit (Vudu, HuluPlus, NetFlix, NHL app, ...) and 3D Blu-ray. They are pretty big pieces but they don't really sex up PS3 visually.


I don't think I'm going out on a limb to suggest that the mobile/tablet market is going to significantly shrink the console handheld market especially when the console handheld market as far as hardware is matching/exceeding the phone/tablet price point this is before we even get into software costs. EDIT: This isn't to say that no one will make money in the handheld market but there is no way I would forecast selling the prior (current) generations unit numbers.

Yeah... while the Android and iOS unit sales are humungous, they may be a different market. Some hardcore gaming companies are able to make a good living out of freemium model. Their users pay tens and hundreds of dollars a month even when free games are readily available. The "trick" is to create content/services that appeal to the right people.
 
WiFi N can be added with an adaptor. But if I were to do it, I'd do more than just add a WiFi N adaptor. ^_^

The PSP still has 802.11b! I think G is probably enough? G certainly works well enough for streaming wirelessly to the PS3 from PC for instance for 720p video.

As for the Firmware, like I said elsewhere, I expect them to focus more on Vita right now, and then come back to the PS3 when they've got the SDK locked down for that (they must have learnt the importance of having that fixed before launch as much as possible by now!)
 
I've pretty much given up on LBP now. My latest movie receives rave reviews from the people who play it or watch it, yet it's only had 25 plays. As a creative medium the work:reward ratio just isn't there for anyone who doesn't break into the 'big league' of recognition. That also negatively impacts my enjoyment of other people's creations, so I prefer to find entertainment in other titles. For me personally, Move support in LBP2 comes too late.

Impressive video mate. Totally agree, I put 60hrs into a level that I whored to death for around 200 plays :( Not only that you get mindless idiots who just say "crap level" with nothing constructive...FTR I asked Jaeyden to play it and he said it showed promise and even went as far as saying he liked my 'falling ceiling' section part a lot (which was really nice) - so it can't be a bad level, certainly better than some of the stuff with thousands of plays and higher ratings :(
 
Truth to be told, I haven't played any of the user levels in LBP2 yet. My LBP2 disc is at home. My son is ahead if me here, saw him play a few short levels.

Now if they were to add user notifications to inform me that Shifty and goonergaz have published a level without my LBP2 disc in my drive, it would encourage/remind me to check them out. 8^(
 
I asked him, it's on rails, no navcon support. Saw a bunch of games at the show, on the Sony side I'd say Resistance 3 was the standout, it looked really good from what they were showing.

It looked on rails in the demo... I liked the look of the game but I have zero interest in playing a game that is on rails. :devilish:
 
Yeah I know - I was just saying that the limitation for PSP remote play currently was the 802.11b in the PSP, not the 802.11g in the PS3.

Yeah... but they also released RemotePlay for Vaio/Windows ! ^_^
I wonder if someone hacked a RemotePlay for iPad. I should find out.

EDIT: Bah... Open RemotePlay is not ported to iOS yet.
 
I dont think simply using a USB cable to connect PS3 + PSV would be too much of an issue. I have always seen wireless as a nice feature rather than required, i often have my DS3 or 360 controller plugged in. I would suspect some of the time even the Wii Us tablet will need charging during gameplay and thus a cable attached, there is only one per console so you cant just have another as backup. Wired conectivity is not ideal but if the experience is compelling enough then its not too much of an issue.

It could also be possible in some usage scenarios to run code natively on PSV and PS3 at the same time instead of streaming between one and the other, so only a small amount of info needs to be passed between devices then. Certainly simple stuff like inventories and UI elements would be easy to implement this way.

Also PSV with a TV-out the PS3 wouldnt even be needed to replicate many of the gameplay features of Wii U, just at lower visual fidelity. Essentially a portable Wii U, which could be quite desireable if Wii U takes off.

Lots of possible configurations, if there is value to be had in implementing them.
 
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Lots of possible configurations, if there is value to be had in implementing them.

Yeah... I am more afraid of their "business reasons" for not supporting or gimping TV integration. There should be plenty of technical solutions. End user value should be clear too. If it's not clear now, it will be when every other devices can connect to big screen TV in assorted ways.
 
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