PS5 is $449 at the moment so max for the pro is $549, but they'll eventually drop the price to $399 and $499. PS3 launched at around $600 iirc, the cheaper models came out much later on. They got really burnt that time.
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Charlietus
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The suits can say whethever they want, but PS5 is constantly on sale. For example Amazon Italy is giving it away for 466€ right now, it's always discounted. I would expect a 100€\$ price cut when the pro releases.
Charlietus
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If they want it to be as cheap as possible to manufacture it has to be on 6nm. The day one PS5 heatsink could take an additional 50-80 watts with a little more fan noise.
They want to retain that ability to put on "sales".
Yea, the PS5 Slim pricing as originally announced sounded awful, especially after the OG PS5 had gone on discount all over the place prior to its release, but the Slim has been on sale quite a bit as well recently, so it feels like a price drop in all but name.
Given the disappointing specs and all for PS5 Pro, I'm thinking it will have room to be a bit more reasonably priced than I was initially expecting. Really thought we'd get something more exciting than this. I guess the biggest selling point will probably be better image quality in 60fps Performance modes, which is something many haven't been happy with so far. And maybe more ray tracing options at 60fps as well, but that's pretty meh.
Sony wants more profit from hardware so PS5 price likely stays the same.
And N4P cost can be offset by much reduced heatsink.
Charlietus
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Good point, but they also know that pricing the pro at 599 wouldn't look good.
I believe there will be some architectural improvements to the way RT is handled but they won't be anything major. I suspect @Albuquerque could be right WRT performance fudging using AI. I think another possibility is some extremely rare corner case where these small tweaks combined with the wider GPU do offer up a 4x increase. I also still fully believe these performance claims are talking about RT processing specifically and not actual game performance. I suspect final performance will range between 40% and 80% over a base PS5.
Kepler seems quite impressed with the PS5 Pro RDNA4 RT specs so far. He compares them to Lovelace in some areas.
DavidGraham
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Reminds me of the noise made around the Series X ray-box and ray-tri peaks, and how these values supersede NVIDIA GPUs, we all know how that turned out in the end.
The tools™ were the issue, not the hardware.
Seriously, Sony's gaming hardware is typically in better situation to be utilize more efficiently and effectively by its first-party developers. Third-party developers will simply use the Pro for higher framerates and higher resolution purposes.
Seeing as the PS5 Pro was delivered to their internal teams in September of last year, we're going to see nice improvements to many of their current first-part titles. I would love to see the inevitable three-way comparisons between PS5, Pro, and PC of Spidey, Horizon, TLoU, RC, and other Sony multiplatform titles.
It would probably be a pretty smart PR move too. Linking the AMD upscaling solution with one of the biggest and most loved gaming brands on the planet.
I would guess that high clocked GPU saps their power budget.
Henry swagger
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This is the guy that said rdba 3 will be more efficient than ada and beat it in raster.. lol dn't trust this guy he just scavenger in gifthub looking for leaks.. amd teraflops and rt teraflops are not equal to nvidia because different architecture
Where are the Nvidia numbers coming from? Haven’t seen any docs stating 4 box intersections per clock. Intel is at 12 box and 1 triangle.
This is not AMD rumors. This is not marketing. This is dev documentation. The dual issue fp32 number is not from the documentation for example. This is the MLID calculation. The only rasterization number we have is 45%.
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RDNA3's ray tracing capabilities were also getting hyped up heavily before we learned the reality.
And as mentioned by others, insignificant CPU improvements could also hamper ray tracing performance ceilings in many situations.
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