"[RSX] ... we're still waiting" - Anon games exec, BusinessWeek article

dskneo said:
what much better competition? Last generation competition was Way way harder!

What exactly was the ps2 competing with when it released and for the immediate year or so after? Dreamcast? PS1? N64?
 
pegisys said:
I just said the xbox360 would do better than the xbox, because it's going to have better game sooner then the xbox did

If you are talking about just one game, you have to remember that Xbox1 had Halo as a launch game, and eventhough I think X360 launch lineup is solid, there still ain't a game that can be compared to Halo. Anyways I'm quite sure X360 will sell better than Xbox, also PS3 will sell more than PS2.
 
because it's going to have better games sooner then the xbox did

ok fixed it, but I don't think halo was all that great, it's a good game but I don't think it would have been a big of hit if they had alot of good games when the system came out
 
pegisys said:
ok fixed it, but I don't think halo was all that great, it's a good game but I don't think it would have been a big of hit if they had alot of good games when the system came out

That game was all that great thank you very much:). I'm sure it would have sold millions even with better games out there, and atleast European launch had many good games and Halo still obliterated every one of them. Not everyone liked it ofcourse, but I think it was better than Halo 2 which also was a very nice game.
 
mckmas8808 said:
It does not mean that AT ALL!!:devilish: They could do 70 million in 2.5 years another 130 the last 2.5 years.

Yeah they're going to sell 30 million a year the first two years. :LOL:

Some of you people are hilarious.
 
Hardknock said:
Yeah they're going to sell 30 million a year the first two years. :LOL:

Some of you people are hilarious.
If they managed to make them they'd have a good shot.

Anyway, its obviously not going to happen in 5 years, but I think by 2016, it'll be accomplished. PS2 could break 150mil...
 
Nicked said:
If they managed to make them they'd have a good shot.

Anyway, its obviously not going to happen in 5 years, but I think by 2016, it'll be accomplished. PS2 could break 150mil...

No it wouldn't. The majority of consoles sold are under the $200 pricepoint.
 
Hardknock said:
No it wouldn't. The majority of consoles sold are under the $200 pricepoint.
Indeed.
But I think 60mil consoles over 2 years is possible in todays market, depending on launch price and market conditions (a pricedrop after a year ala PS2..). Also, what consoles sell at today isn't the same as tomorrow. Median sales price is going up each generation (by alot).
 
Hardknock said:
No it wouldn't. The majority of consoles sold are under the $200 pricepoint.
That's probably why MS made a "Core" version... so they can get to the $200 price point quicker. So are we going to see a PS3 "Core" version? :)
 
Hardknock said:
Yeah they're going to sell 30 million a year the first two years. :LOL:

Some of you people are hilarious.

Well I don't think Sony will sell 200 mill in 5 years I was just showing how they didn't need to sell exactly 40 million units a years. Obviously they will have lopsided years. That was my point.
 
Can we please stop these sales threads that have been repeated way too much? Im sick of it, It´s always the same, Johnny Awesome and especially Qroach will demonize everything Sony does, negating every single advantage they have while elevating MS and everything Xbox to the heavens of purity and holyness. Same with some folks on the Sony side, it´s just annoying really.

Anyway, I have a question to Barbarian, do you have the BD drive yet in your new devkit?? And what company do you work for? I´d be usefull to know if RSX indeed doesn´t exist yet or if it just isn´t widely available. I mean, EA is far more likely to recieve some well before other publishers. Also, if the GPU is a type C, what would be a type B and a type A?? Does that mean that there´s two revisions yet for the GPU? Would those revisions be improvments??
 
mckmas8808 said:
Well I don't think Sony will sell 200 mill in 5 years I was just showing how they didn't need to sell exactly 40 million units a years. Obviously they will have lopsided years. That was my point.
Your point only shows more poignantly how groudless the original claim is. 40 million per year is the minimum. Given lopsided production, which is extremely reasonable, production would have to exceed 40 million per year in some year(s) to hit the 200 million mark.
 
Barbarian said:
Let's just say that in the office last week we got 3 spanking new PS3 devkits and even though they have the final spec Cell (3.2Ghz) the graphics card is still "Type C" = 7 series 512mb VRAM on PCIe and hence still has the above mentioned CPU-GPU bandwidth restriction.
This definitely does not look like a final dev kit and we are the end of December already.
You're a brave boy
 
nAo said:
You're a brave boy

I've also noticed that after he has received a couple of PM's and direct questions in this thread he has not said a word. You guys are great at keep freaking secerts.

I guess you have to feed you families. I would feel bad if I knew when the final kits arrived and what was in it and you lost your job and you and your wife and kids (if you have any) got kicked out of your homes and had to starve.:cry:

So on that note I will wait 2 more months. Then I think you will tell us.;)
 
I hope we get a "reannouncement" of spec at CES, if not an update. At least that way we'll know if things have changed or not. If they keep quiet on spec totally, we'll just be left speculating for another couple of months at least :p Even if RSX is late, they should know exactly what it looks like now.
 
mckmas8808 said:
I've also noticed that after he has received a couple of PM's and direct questions in this thread he has not said a word. You guys are great at keep freaking secerts.

Console devhouse people do get fired for posting on Net boards. I have personally witnessed it for trivial but still NDAed stuff from a guy who was sloppy with hiding his identity at a company I worked at a few years ago.

It is unfortunate the reality of the console market makes such tight control of hardware and development info since so much bogus info ends up filling that void.
 
This is Beyond3D not BeyondSales!

The 90nm redesign to PS3 circuit board is finished. Nvidia is waiting for G71 introduction to "reannounce" Sony's RSX core. :D
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What custom changes will Sony add to G70? 4MB edram z-framebuffer cache. 2 SPEs.
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Why add SPEs to RSX? RSX will be able to communicate with 7 of them at 35Gb/s given what we know already. What benefit would more of them be? What could they do on RSX's die that they cannot where they are in Cell?
 
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