Rings of Red

Pariah said:
That's rather optimistic wouldn't you say?
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Yeah I don't follow that logic either. How much does an out of warranty repair cost you. Last I heard it was over a hundred bucks, so at best you can afford a 360 and 2 out of warranty repairs for the price of a PS3. And with something like continuous play in the UK it's even worse since I haven't heard MS offering something like that.
 
I just got mine back. Took about 30 days from initial failure to returned unit. I happened to get a new one back, so no real complaints.

As far as anecdotal UPS evidence:

When I dropped it off for shipping, the UPS guy said something like: An xbox. First one today, we get a lot of these.

When they delivered the return, the UPS delivery guy also commented on how they deliver a lot of them.

I can't provide any quantification, though.
 
crazygambit said:
Yeah I don't follow that logic either. How much does an out of warranty repair cost you. Last I heard it was over a hundred bucks, so at best you can afford a 360 and 2 out of warranty repairs for the price of a PS3. And with something like continuous play in the UK it's even worse since I haven't heard MS offering something like that.
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Once you already have one, you don't have to buy the xbox 360 again.

In the US I believe its 139 for an out of warranty repair, if you multiply that by 4, you still wouldn't have spent enough money to buy a ps3 now would you?
 
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AlphaWolf said:
Once you already have one, you don't have to buy the xbox 360 again.

In the US I believe its 139 for an out of warranty repair, if you multiply that by 4, you still wouldn't have spent enough money to buy a ps3 now would you?
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4*139 = $556

Your right, if you won the XBOX 360 and didn´t buy it in the first place or you would have to add between $300 and 460$ :)
 
AlphaWolf said:
Once you already have one, you don't have to buy the xbox 360 again.

In the US I believe its 139 for an out of warranty repair, if you multiply that by 4, you still wouldn't have spent enough money to buy a ps3 now would you?
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He said "a 360 and 2 out of warranty repairs." So that would be 399 + 278 = 677.
 
cthellis42 said:
If this has been posted already, I'm sorry: http://www.gwn.com/news/story.php/id/13140/Xbox_360_Failures_Explained.html
(Edit: Didn't notice before, but this is mainly just highlighting one of the replies in the previously linked interview with Holmdahl.)

It certainly does seem to be a widespread issue. I now have two friends who have a bricked 360 outside of warranty, and one other who had a warranty replacement. (Yes, I know personal examples are not good measurements, but this is still WAYYYY above any other console issues the same same set has had, and the problem has kept up for a long period of time via online reports.)

I'm surprised there's no class-action lawsuit yet. ...or am I wrong on that regard? ;) Hard to keep up on lawsuits in the US. Hehe...

Is there any course of action my friends can take right now?
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inefficient said:
They can go buy PS3s :devilish:
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AlphaWolf said:
Or they can get about 5 out of warranty repairs on their 360 for less money.
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This is the full sequence of posts that includes the AlphaWolf post that keeps getting argued with. His post is perfectly valid when viewed in the proper context.
 
mrcorbo said:
This is the full sequence of posts that includes the AlphaWolf post that keeps getting argued with. His post is perfectly valid when viewed in the proper context.
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Thank you.

I really despise the people that can't be bothered to follow the context of an argument in a thread but still feel the need to snipe at comments. If you can't be bothered to figure out what people are talking about, save yourself some embarrassment and don't bother to comment.
 
this thing i heard won't be to do with rings of death, but it will be an interest to discuss what microsoft do to their 360s together, i mean treating some returned units.

apparantly in korea, a user who thought had bought a brand new Xbox 360, suffererd from Xbox Live Ban (code showed that it was hacked system). he contacted Korean MS support, they told him that he hacked the system, which surprised him as he buys all games and never hacked systems. even his warranty seal wasn't voided (xbox support team told him that special tool was used). so it could be microsoft selling units (even hacked units) as if they were new :mad:. reasons for me believing in this? well, if hacked user used Xbox Live and to register the system, microsoft could have reset the serial code and reset three account policy for a specific system. still an assumption but amazing to see microsoft selling a system that was hacked.

i am not sure how hacked system got to microsoft (by exchanging systems or refunds maybe), i will bring more on this later.
 
AlphaWolf said:
Thank you.

I really despise the people that can't be bothered to follow the context of an argument in a thread but still feel the need to snipe at comments. If you can't be bothered to figure out what people are talking about, save yourself some embarrassment and don't bother to comment.
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Ok, while you're technically correct that getting 5 out of warranty repairs might cost them less now than getting a PS3, it's kind of a weird way of looking at it. You're assuming the 360 they bought is a sunk cost and has no resell value which, if true, is kinda lame. Plus you'd be better off buying a new unit than keep trying to revive the same old one.

Anyways let's stop this stupid debate. Here's a song about the issue.

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=18349
 
Quick question. If your 360 fails under warranty do you get a year of warranty for the replaced one from the time you get it back or do you just keep your original year? Thanks.
 
:oops:

http://360-gamer.com/news.asp?id=1143

A shocking statistic we found out though is that between 1,500 to 2,500 consoles get sent to Havant by three UPS lorries per day, to then be shipped to Prague for repair,”
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2005 UK Xbox 360 sales: 150,000 Units (Core + Premium)
2006 UK Xbox 360 sales: 750,000 Units (Core + Premium)

2005-2006 Sales: 900K, so let's assume 1M 360s have sold in the UK until NOW, 2000 average per day is 2k/1000k = 0.2% ship rate, based on figures we were given here.
 
0.2% per day is 70% per annum! That can't be right. If so, if you've bought an XB360 you can expect it to die. Ms's design and engineering can't be that bad!

Reading the article, is the the amount being exported to clear a backlog. Thus it'll be 2000 per day to Prague until it's been cleared, and settle down after that. This still points to stupidly large failure rates though, possibly even in the 20%s (If Havant could deal with a 5% failure rate, it'd need a far higher rate to saturate them to the point of shipping so many consoles out)

They link to a very fair poll. They allow you to record 0 failures, the time you've had the machine, and require a gamertag and email to verify legitimacy. I suggest everyone with an XB360 takes part. If those who haven't had issues don't take part, it'll skew the results.
 
Ant1Fanb0y1sm said:
:oops:

http://360-gamer.com/news.asp?id=1143



2005 UK Xbox 360 sales: 150,000 Units (Core + Premium)
2006 UK Xbox 360 sales: 750,000 Units (Core + Premium)

2005-2006 Sales: 900K, so let's assume 1M 360s have sold in the UK until NOW, 2000 average per day is 2k/1000k = 0.2% ship rate, based on figures we were given here.
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If they work five-day weeks, this works out to the same old 3~5% failure rate. Per month.
 
Shifty Geezer said:
They link to a very fair poll. They allow you to record 0 failures, the time you've had the machine, and require a gamertag and email to verify legitimacy. I suggest everyone with an XB360 takes part. If those who haven't had issues don't take part, it'll skew the results.
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I'm down for 0 (so far), thanks for pointing to the link.
 
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