RD580 Crossfire minipreview at AT
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_xxx_ said:
Although you are trying to be witty, you just look ignorant.
Good article, with lots of good info. X1800 Crossfire no longer has the same resolution problems, that plagued that X800 series Crossfire. Thats good news.
The chipset also looks stellar for overclocking. No more dropping the HTT, like we have to in the NF4.
I think people get that given the number of times you've repeated it. Lets move the conversation on now shall we? This is the Technology forum, not the "Availability" forum._xxx_ said:
Well I do wonder just when all this stuff will be out. The x1800PE sounds like it could be quite interesting and that it could end up pulling the prices back down a bit, I certainly hope so.
After my personal experience with an ati based mobo I will wait one more generation before I jump on, but they certainly sound promising to say the least. I am a fan of seperate sound cards personally, but they certainly gushed over their sound quality.
It does make me wonder, many have suggested the r580 is just around the corner, if this is true then why make so many different parts in the x1XXX family? It just seems a bit wasteful, but what do I know.
After my personal experience with an ati based mobo I will wait one more generation before I jump on, but they certainly sound promising to say the least. I am a fan of seperate sound cards personally, but they certainly gushed over their sound quality.
It does make me wonder, many have suggested the r580 is just around the corner, if this is true then why make so many different parts in the x1XXX family? It just seems a bit wasteful, but what do I know.
This could very well constitute a reason to replace my x800 xt/nf3 mboard combination sometime next year. I'd much rather a company release and ship its products when they are reasonably mature as opposed to rushing things to market in buggy and immature versions just to garner a few Internet PR points here and there. Doing motherboard and core-logic design is not a trivial thing and the fact that a quality product takes time to develop should surprise no one. It took nV years to get to nF3 not to mention nf4, and there are still areas needing a lot of work, imo (such as onboard RAID controllers and the so-called "hardware" nV Firewall, to name just a couple of things.) Considering how late in comparison with nV ATi got into this game I think they are doing very well indeed. What's important about this preview, to me, is that it illustrates just how competitve ATi is planning to be in this market as these are the first enthusiast-grade, AMD mBoard products I've seen from ATi. It's good to know they're in the production pipeline.
_xxx_ said:As you wish, boss!A bit touchy today, heh?
No but he seems to echo what some of us have been feeling..Meaning you have said this about ATI almost every post for the last week. Even though newegg has them in stock right now we know that folks in other parts of the world dont have them yet. So yes we all know they are hard to get...we dont need to be reminded of this every time we see a post from you
No offense....
I do believe one vender has announced the the up and coming Intel 975 chipset will have the Yonah socket onboard. I do believe that chipset also has 2x8 PCi-e onboard . Couple that with the just announced Yonah EE and we have a new King setting at the top of the gaming pile.Pressure said:
kemosabe said:
If i had to guess and ATI wanted the performance crown in every benchmark back and launched the cards as well at 700 dollars, it would have to be 750-800MHz on the cores and 1.1ns memory fully clocked at 1800MHz. I think binning for chips that could take these speeds would be rediculous in cost and yield though.
So problably 700MHz core 1800MHz memory, and i simply think we either see a few FPS trailing or leading over the 512GTX.
ATi needs to get past some supply issues, and a general lack of smart management personally. In all honesty I think ATi is filled with such extremely talented engineers that its absolutly amazing how advanced and forward thinking some of their cards are, and what they pull off when you look at the specs is down right mind blowing. It just seems to me that the technical side of ATi is crippled, as it appears, severaly by mind numbingly stupid business choices and decisions.
Maybe that's a bit to harsh on the management at ATi. But honestly, when I look at what's been going wrong for ATi lately it just seems like lots of bad ideas, terrible marketing and bad decision making.
Maybe that's a bit to harsh on the management at ATi. But honestly, when I look at what's been going wrong for ATi lately it just seems like lots of bad ideas, terrible marketing and bad decision making.
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So when are we gonna see this X1800XT-PE?? Next year February?
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I see your point But ATi did not know nor could they. That a vender they used sold them a licenes that was flawed. The soft ground problem was a bad deal for ati. I sure wouldn't have wanted to be in ati management the last 6 months would you . Things have gotten back to normal now ATi will now put products out the door on time at least until after R600. Nvidia I hope has done its homework because ATI got snaged but there line is free now .
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If R580 is slated for Jan-Feb/06, it would make little sense for X1800XTPE to launch any later than next month. Seeing these boards for sale before Christmas would certainly be a strong indicator that ATI is finally getting their act together, though my expectations aren't very high.
could r580 be x1800xt pe?
edit: what I mean is, could the the "pe" that anandtech mentioned actually be the x1800xt refresh? 700 + clocks are not going to compete well against the gtx 512, as in many cases the x1800xt trails by ~20% with AA/AF, hence I think that ATI may introduce a stronger spice.
edit: what I mean is, could the the "pe" that anandtech mentioned actually be the x1800xt refresh? 700 + clocks are not going to compete well against the gtx 512, as in many cases the x1800xt trails by ~20% with AA/AF, hence I think that ATI may introduce a stronger spice.
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Typical Spring release is March/April, no? I think ATI planned on R520 this Spring, with a speed bump this Fall, and R580 next Spring. They may have skipped right to the speed bump, given their delay, and the XTPE may be the high-end bump they were planning for.
Wait, that doesn't really make sense, as R580 is still the same generation, and they've got nowhere to go but X1900. Are we back to yearly updates, or is six months still the thing? I forget the recent release schedule.
Wait, that doesn't really make sense, as R580 is still the same generation, and they've got nowhere to go but X1900. Are we back to yearly updates, or is six months still the thing? I forget the recent release schedule.
