RD580 Crossfire minipreview at AT

[Turtle 1]

Thats alright Pete ATI has us all a little punch drunk.

 

[ondaedg]

I think people get that given the number of times you've repeated it. Lets move the conversation on now shall we? This is the Technology forum, not the "Availability" forum.

I must say that I am a bit frustrated myself at the lack of availability. I do see your point though in not dwelling on it.

 

[Tim]

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2609&p=4

Any guesses on X1800XT PE clocks?

I am not even sure there is a PE - Ati might have been refering to the upcomming 650MHz x1800XTs from Sapphire, Asus and others. Anand might have confused this slightly faster XT from some vendors with an official PE release.

 

[incurable]

And another motherboard reference design that supposedly clocks to heaven, who'd have guessed? Maybe they should spend more of their manhours on improving their weak southbridges and less on useless features of designs noone's ever going to be able to buy in a shop.

And while I understand the motives behind those kind of previews, I'm sick of ATi 'showing off' (or rather teasing about) stuff that they hope you can buy in 2-3 months time. Execute, then talk, damnit.

 

[obobski]

I hear that man, Intel showing their 65nm Cedar Mill series P4's off...and then announcing the launch in like March

oh, and Yonah is a mobile core...at least afaik, it's the mobile core
Intel's 2006 H1 products are Cedar Mill 65nm: single core, EM64T, sleep transistor, pretty sure it's got VT, THG had one at 3.2 or 3.6 and it was only 86W TDP, meaning a 4GHz might still happen

and Presler, which is dual Cedar Mill's, somewhat like Smithfield is to Prescott, yet with some facelifting in how that is done
yeah so stop speaking about an EE edition mobile processor, the current Pentium D EE is Smithfield, and the replacement is Presler on the Pentium D 9xx series

it's also using LGA 775, not some new socket
Intel's 975x supports CrossFire with drivers and support from Intel, and SLI is possible were drivers avalible (currently it appears to be in the air, if Intel wants to make it for both and upset ATi, or if they want to please ATi and ignore SLI on their 975x) the 975x is the nwe chipset, but the 945 and 955 can also support Cedar Mill and most likely Presler

I wanna say 975x is dual x16 PCIe, but it's probably dual x8 (so idk, it's one or the other)

Yonah is based on Dothan iirc, as I recall it has EM64T, and is designed to run sub-20W single cores, and sub-30W dual cores...all at sub 2GHZ speeds afaik

 

[Geo]

My internet connection has been flaky as hell this week, but I finally got to read all of that article. They've moved up their prediction for R580 from "no earlier than CeBit" (i.e. first 1/2 of March) to "about the same time" as RD580, which they predict for "early to mid January".

 

[Arty]

My internet connection has been flaky as hell this week, but I finally got to read all of that article. They've moved up their prediction for R580 from "no earlier than CeBit" (i.e. first 1/2 of March) to "about the same time" as RD580, which they predict for "early to mid January".

If I remember correctly, their prediction of "around the same time as CeBit" was from AIB partners and this "early to mid January" is directly from ATI.

 

[Skrying]

If I remember correctly, their prediction of "around the same time as CeBit" was from AIB partners and this "early to mid January" is directly from ATI.

Ugh, that's a really bad sign.

 

[Arty]

Ugh, that's a really bad sign.

That is my guess though. Also you have to take into account that the previous prediction was month old. Maybe things (plans) have changed between then and now. All my speculation of course. :|

 

[Kaotik]

I hear that man, Intel showing their 65nm Cedar Mill series P4's off...and then announcing the launch in like March

oh, and Yonah is a mobile core...at least afaik, it's the mobile core
Intel's 2006 H1 products are Cedar Mill 65nm: single core, EM64T, sleep transistor, pretty sure it's got VT, THG had one at 3.2 or 3.6 and it was only 86W TDP, meaning a 4GHz might still happen

and Presler, which is dual Cedar Mill's, somewhat like Smithfield is to Prescott, yet with some facelifting in how that is done
yeah so stop speaking about an EE edition mobile processor, the current Pentium D EE is Smithfield, and the replacement is Presler on the Pentium D 9xx series

it's also using LGA 775, not some new socket
Intel's 975x supports CrossFire with drivers and support from Intel, and SLI is possible were drivers avalible (currently it appears to be in the air, if Intel wants to make it for both and upset ATi, or if they want to please ATi and ignore SLI on their 975x) the 975x is the nwe chipset, but the 945 and 955 can also support Cedar Mill and most likely Presler

I wanna say 975x is dual x16 PCIe, but it's probably dual x8 (so idk, it's one or the other)

Yonah is based on Dothan iirc, as I recall it has EM64T, and is designed to run sub-20W single cores, and sub-30W dual cores...all at sub 2GHZ speeds afaik

Yonah is the next "Pentium M" so yes, it's mobile chip.
However the new name "Intel Core" makes me hope they're finally willing to bring them on desktops too, and we'd get wider variety of desktop Pentium M boards than the 3-4 boards out there atm.

 

[Turtle 1]

I hear that man, Intel showing their 65nm Cedar Mill series P4's off...and then announcing the launch in like March

oh, and Yonah is a mobile core...at least afaik, it's the mobile core
Intel's 2006 H1 products are Cedar Mill 65nm: single core, EM64T, sleep transistor, pretty sure it's got VT, THG had one at 3.2 or 3.6 and it was only 86W TDP, meaning a 4GHz might still happen

and Presler, which is dual Cedar Mill's, somewhat like Smithfield is to Prescott, yet with some facelifting in how that is done
yeah so stop speaking about an EE edition mobile processor, the current Pentium D EE is Smithfield, and the replacement is Presler on the Pentium D 9xx series

it's also using LGA 775, not some new socket
Intel's 975x supports CrossFire with drivers and support from Intel, and SLI is possible were drivers avalible (currently it appears to be in the air, if Intel wants to make it for both and upset ATi, or if they want to please ATi and ignore SLI on their 975x) the 975x is the nwe chipset, but the 945 and 955 can also support Cedar Mill and most likely Presler

I wanna say 975x is dual x16 PCIe, but it's probably dual x8 (so idk, it's one or the other)

Yonah is based on Dothan iirc, as I recall it has EM64T, and is designed to run sub-20W single cores, and sub-30W dual cores...all at sub 2GHZ speeds afaik

1) No Em64T on Yonah
2) Intel could careless if ATI gets made about SLI and CF on the same M/B. It is nvidia's corp. greed that is stopping this from happening. Nvidia wants to sell chipsets.
So does ATI but they are still willing to let Intel use CF on their boards. Nvidia is the one stopping this not Intel or ATI.
3) Yonah E is real not product of theory.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26904
4) As soon as I can find link foe ECS 975x chipset with Intel Yonah socket I will post it.
Nvidia should enjoy these times because its going to get really tough for nvidia and AMD in 2006. when yonah goes on the 975x ECS M/B there will be a new gaming king its that simple.
5) Here's a cpu breakdown of what happens if you play games at high res. with eyecandy.
If you play games at low res and no eye candy . Than and only than does it matter what CPU you to a point.


http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/cpu-games2.html