PSP ??

BTW is it Playstation 1 Portable....I am sure it cant be PS2 portable...did they show PSP there?

Its neither, this is a brand new system.

They only show the Universal Media Disc, which is slightly smaller than Sony Mini Disc.

Give out the size of the screens

and said its 3D with performance still to be decided and coming out in late 2004, with dev kit shipping soon.
 
It will use a disk rather than a catridge....are we seeing history repeating itself....? N64...PSX... :)
 
Nintendo has never had a problem with access to the latest technology ;)

They also have never had problems with 3rd party support for thier portables ;)

PowerVR MBXII anyone? :devilish:

I've got my umbrella :LOL:
 
It will use a disk rather than a catridge....are we seeing history repeating itself....? N64...PSX...

They also claimed that this new media is cheaper than cartridge. I am not sure if this is size to cost ratio, or just side by side price comparison.

Also we don't know if this media is a record/writeable. They did say about putting 2 hours worth of MPEG4 video. Maybe you will be able to purchase movies in this format as well or backup ? Beats me.

But to have MPEG4 even low res, the chip in this PSP need to be quite speedy.
 
PowerVR MBXII anyone?

Something along that line would be nice for Nintendo or MS.

As far as PSP goes, I think it won't be as features rich as PVR MBX. Its a one chip solution for portable system after all.
 
PC-Engine said:
Nintendo has never had a problem with access to the latest technology ;)

They also have never had problems with 3rd party support for thier portables ;)

PowerVR MBXII anyone? :devilish:

I've got my umbrella :LOL:

Only thing SONY has to do is make it more profitable to produce games for PSP than GBA...!
 
Deepak said:
PC-Engine said:
Nintendo has never had a problem with access to the latest technology ;)

They also have never had problems with 3rd party support for thier portables ;)

PowerVR MBXII anyone? :devilish:

I've got my umbrella :LOL:

Only thing SONY has to do is make it more profitable to produce games for PSP than GBA...!

...and how are they going to do that give away PSPs? Last time I heard there were over 100 million GBx worldwide...
 
Sony has an entire divison/company dedicated to high capacity battery solutions. Ipods got their batteries from Sony Fukushima and that drives a HDD for 10 hours. MO with buffers should be much better especially with their decades of experience in optimising portable electronics.

Sony-Fukushima:
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PC-Engine said:
...and how are they going to do that give away PSPs? Last time I heard there were over 100 million GBx worldwide...

Playstation name would guarantee initial success! From there it is up to Sony to build on it! I dont think poeple would mind it....it is better for market/// if we can have 3 in consoles than why not have atleast 2 in handheld....and btw sony has more chances to succeed than other player who were unsuccesful in breaking GB empire due to various reasons!

Competition is Welcome!
 
V3 said:
BTW is it Playstation 1 Portable....I am sure it cant be PS2 portable...did they show PSP there?

Its neither, this is a brand new system.

They only show the Universal Media Disc, which is slightly smaller than Sony Mini Disc.

Give out the size of the screens

and said its 3D with performance still to be decided and coming out in late 2004, with dev kit shipping soon.

I think PSP will more or less have PSX architecture....there is no need to create a new architecture.....developers are very well versed with PSX, so they wont need to put in special effort....and obviously GBA:SP is inferior to PSX...so another selling point!
 
First post btw, hope everyone thinks its a good one...

I think this is not so much of a PSP vs GBA as a PSP vs N-gage.

Couple reasons:

Price:
While it would be nice if Sony could pack all that into a $99 dollar handheld, this is more like a mid/high-level CLIE, that's like $299, $399. Of course, Sony sells 100,000 CLIEs, but we can expect millions of PSPs, so with economies of scale, lets drop the price to $199-ish, or even $149.

Maybe I'm totally wrong here, but IMO the GBA market is still mostly the under-15 crowd - and $199 is not something Mom and Dad is willing to spend for something Junior could lose/get stolen/spill juice on at school.

Like the N-gage, I'm guessing this is for the older kids, and adults - so while this will significantly effect GBA sales, this isn't the end for Nintendo at all. It will push the GBA more into kid territory. (The N-gage will be $299 - a price that I think will drop fast ;) )

Timing:

If Sony wanted to beat the GBA, they wouldn't have waited for GBA to sell by the tens of millions before annoucing their PSP. Let's look at the timing - N-gage is scheduled to be out Oct. 7. By announcing PSP now, they cast a big shadow on N-gage. How many developers are thinking twice now? How many potential customers are thinking twice now?

By announcing PSP now, Sony is effectively saying, "N-gage is gonna get Dreamcasted" (Rest in Peace, DC...the world is unfair)

So what's ahead...?(going into super-speculation mode)

If we assume that Sony is in fact gunning for the N-gage, which launches 5 months from now, we should expect to hear some news coming from Sony's "backyard" developers - Konami, Square/Enix - right around the N-gage launch. Maybe a FF, or a MGS spin-off. Who knows, with 5 months, some of Sony's in-house developers might even have early screenshots, if the PSP hardware is similar enough to the PS1 or PS2. If all goes as planned, Sony will take a lot of the wind out of the Nokia launch.

Now continuing on into 2004, we get more screenshots, more games, etc.
By the PSP launch, in Q4 2004 - PS3 hype should be starting up (assuming a PS3 launch in 2005, which Panajev and Vince have guessed). A lot of that hype will feed into the PSP - and of course, if we get games that use that USB2 port to link PSP to PS3, that would defintely help sales. Perhaps a FF game with optional mini-games on the PSP, perhaps with items that could go back to the main game, that kind of thing.

For Sony, the PSP would absorb a great deal of the "gaming dollars" that might otherwise go to the Xbox or GC in 2004, as people round out their PS2 collections. It would also serve good competition if MS or Nintendo want to launch early.

Then in 2005, PS3 rolls in.

Of course, this is one hell of a rosy picture, plenty of things could go wrong. For one, MS can cook up a handheld easily - take a Pocket PC, jazz it up, and subsidize to keep the price down. But I think this is the Sony strategy, for why now, why these specs.
 
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BTW regarding your theory of PSP vs N-Gage rather than GBA.....why would Sony price PSP more than PS2??? Why would anyone by a handheld that is costlier than a console??? And not to mention is inferior by a long shot?? :?:
 
I guess it will be at least $199 and above. 3D and MPEG4 on a tiny LCD screen? 1.8GB is alot, i guess PSP is not for games only....I wonder about the battery life too... :oops:
 
I was trying to be conservative here...look at the hardware Sony is talking about - 4.5 inch LCD, MPEG-4 decoder, what looks like serious CPU power, plus a 1.8G MO drive, and the lithum battery to power it all...

Just doing a back-of-the-envelope estimation, that has to be at least a CLIE worth of stuff, if not more. Even a Sony MD player is 100 US.

Go figure.

Even at $199, I think it still has a viable market - we're thinking more in the realm of cell phones and PDAs rather that Game Boy. Just look at the capabilities - DVD quality playback, ATRAC music - this is going to be more of a multimedia jukebox, an iPod, than a GBA.
 
chaphack said:
I guess it will be at least $199 and above. 3D and MPEG4 on a tiny LCD screen? 1.8GB is alot, i guess PSP is not for games only....I wonder about the battery life too... :oops:

But Chap! why would anyone buy PSP for 199 when PS2 will be available for less for about 100 (in late 2004)...?
 
Because PS2 is not portable?

The same reason why you have so many newer versions of smaller cellphones every 6 months. Or how about portable DVD players or portable MD players. Why buy them when you can get a more affordable and robust home systems?

I am sure PSP is aimed at the upper demographs of gamers, rather than the GBA market. The specs are overkill for a friendly portable game machine, i thinketh..
 
It would be awesome if you could hook up a PSP to PS3

PSP: Uhh dad I need a little more power to render this scene at a higher frame rate

PS3: Again??!!

PSP: Yea..

PS3: Fine *PS3 donates the power of one it's APU's to help out it's child the PSP*

LMAO :LOL:
 
PC-Engine said:
GBA:SP is inferior to PSX...so another selling point!

GB Classic was inferior to Game Gear and Lynx too... ;)

Don't let brand loyalty cloud your judgement.

You missunderstood me! I was talking about architecture part! If PSP is based on PSX and is going to come out in 2004 obviuosly it will be superior to GBA tech wise....!
 
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