PS4 Pro Speculation (PS4K NEO Kaio-Ken-Kutaragi-Kaz Neo-san)

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I think the 'issue' here is why is the Neo (potentially) 3cm thicker and 4lb heavier if all it is is the GPU upgrade and a reasonable overclock. Maybe the noise complaints have meant they've overhauled the cooling but that's quite an upgrade.
 
I think we'll get a glimpse of what will be used for the Neo from the slim model. They are probably using a similar cooling & m/b layout for both systems.
 
Price and release date could be two important factors, but it will be difficult to take advantage of price if MS refuses to provide scorpio pricing until late next year. It will be easy to take advantage of an early launch however, it means MS will then launch with a significant sales deficit, a bit like the PS3 situation. And then price will come into play.
 
mpg1 said:
PS4 owners will go from mocking Xbox One originals large size to justifying a larger console with neo because of "cooler and quieter" payoffs.
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And it will probably still be smaller than the original X1 :p

I think the joke was that the og X1 offered inferior h/w while being significantly larger while also still having an external power brick. I have to be honest though, its quiet nature was most welcome :yep2:
 
Clukos said:
And it will probably still be smaller than the original X1 :p

I think the joke was that the og X1 offered inferior h/w while being significantly larger while also still having an external power brick. I have to be honest though, its quiet nature was most welcome :yep2:
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It sounds to me that it will be close to original Xbox One's size. 3cm thicker than orginial PS4 is fairly significant.
 
mpg1 said:
It sounds to me that it will be close to original Xbox One's size. 3cm thicker than orginial PS4 is fairly significant.
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Closer to the original X1 is a reasonable expectation but i still expect it to be fairly smaller (especially width and height).
 
Clukos said:
Closer to the original X1 is a reasonable expectation but i still expect it to be fairly smaller (especially width and height).
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Yeah it probably be slightly smaller than original X1. The shape will probably be closer to PS4 than Xbox One.

PS4 is 53mm in height...this will be 83mm if reports are true. Doesn't seem like much but that's 63% thicker. It will be noticeable.

For reference Xbox One original is 80mm thick.
 
Thicker could mean a lot of things (diameter, height, width, length, combination). But like i said, it's not that far away, we'll know soon enough (except if they don't show the actual h/w).
 
Clukos said:
Thicker could mean a lot of things (diameter, height, width, length, combination). But like i said, it's not that far away, we'll know soon enough (except if they don't show the actual h/w).
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yeah, I'm assuming "thicker" = height but it could also mean width...or a combination of both. Although the fact that someone specifically said 3cm tells me it is one or the other as it would hard to measure a combination and give 3cm.
 
MrFox said:
As long as it has an internal power supply, and a stackable design with front-to-back airflow, I'm good.
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Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if they have changed PS4's pressurised airflow system.
 
The Neo if at 5.5TF, would of course be targeting the Xbox Scorpio. In that context, pricing would be competitive enough, as from the currently suggested specs the latter would still be a more expensive device.


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Scorpio being at 6TF next year makes Neo at 5.5TF this year less believable to me..

After all Phil Spencer specially said they intended to release a console this year but needed to wait a year to get the more powerful hardware they wanted....maybe that was primarily cpu and memory related but I dunno...I think gpu power played a lot into that delay.
 
ultragpu said:
What's with the 5.5TB, shouldn't it be TF?
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Nah, TB. The 3cm additional thickness is required to house a JBOD RAID array.

mpg1 said:
PS4 owners will go from mocking Xbox One originals large size to justifying a larger console with neo because of "cooler and quieter" payoffs.
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Xbone was mocked because it was a sloppy, lazy design which was mostly empty space housing weaksauce hardware, plus a bigass power brick on top. PS3 Phat was BIG and fricken heavy in its launch iteration, but there was logic behind the design. It was all very well thought-out. Just because you're big doesn't mean you're automatically worthy of mocking; there's no hypocrisy at play here. ;)

Arwin said:
The Neo if at 5.5TF, would of course be targeting the Xbox Scorpio.
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I'm assuming Neo will launch at the rumored 4.2TF performance level, assuming that number is at all correct of course. Bumping performance late in the game is risky, and brings with it costs as well, and console business is cost sensitive; or it is if you want to remain profitable anyway... :) Sony has offered inferior performance in the past and been very successful despite it, so it's not as if you HAVE to compulsively react to a competitor's more powerful hardware.

Of course, I'd happily welcome a stronger PS4, but life experience has made me cynical and jaded about harboring any such hopes. :p
 
Are we sure it's not 3mm and not cm? Cm is hardly ever used for measuring things at a technical level. 3cm is a cavernous amount of space for Sony hardware engineers.
 
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