PS3 'near-final' hardware present at E3
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Posted March 24, 2005 by Jaws:
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Posted May 14, 2005 by Jaws:
Jaws, you have been the closest one so far
. Remember, i was one the one who posted first in the PSINEXT forums (which would mean in any forum on the internet) about the Relationship between real-time Ray-tracing and Sony.
remeber this: http://www.research.scea.com/research/pdfs/la-siggraph-panel_2001_DOM.pdf
Jaws said:
PS3? Custom logic part of NV5x?
Distributed rendering? Harddisk?
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Posted May 14, 2005 by Jaws:
Jaws said:Jaws said:
Axider said:The Xbox360 has his GPU. The PS"3" got his GPU and a little help..
I see PS"3" chips...hmmm...does this deserve a wink?
Also is the "little help"...a "chaperone"...?
Please add 'winks' where appropriate!
Jaws, you have been the closest one so far
. Remember, i was one the one who posted first in the PSINEXT forums (which would mean in any forum on the internet) about the Relationship between real-time Ray-tracing and Sony. remeber this: http://www.research.scea.com/research/pdfs/la-siggraph-panel_2001_DOM.pdf
Titanio said:hugo said:
I don't think they did?
And the suggestion was that the GPU would be getting "a little help". I don't know how a physics chip would manage that. Who know's if this is actually true or not though
Titanio, do you work for a developer that is developing Next-Gen console games for Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo or just one of them?
Nirey said:
Currently? I don't work for anyone. What made you think that? I just don't think AEGIA said their chip would definitely be in one of the consoles.
pahcman said:
I've seen DCharlie vouch for him, and I'd trust DCharlie. Of course, if you don't know someone yourself directly..easiest thing to do is take with a grain of salt. Less than 2 days to go now..
pahcman said:
The most recent I can find is this: http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=47107&page=3&pp=50. Third post down. Someone was claiming "Axsider is just a sony fanboy. He doesn't know anything" and DCharlie responded "ha ha ...survey says... X!". Again, can't vouch for him myself..
pahcman said:
Yeah, I'm expecting some more japanese publisher announcements for X360, and SquareEnix.
Well we've had people 'vouching' for Nirey...
Regards what this 'third chip' could be, I can't see it being anything but graphics related. 1) The patent shows as much. 2) What the hell are you going to use 256 GFlops processing on if you dump your physics onto another chip?!?!
The one area Cell won't have as strong a performance as many solutions is graphics. It'd be the smartest area to beef up if you could. Self shadowing and reflections would add a nice addition to PS3 visuals without demanding anything of the content creators, saving them time and money (no reflection map, perhaps less UV coordinate concerns).
Remember though, just 'coz it's in a patent doesn't mean it'll ever see the light of day.
Regards what this 'third chip' could be, I can't see it being anything but graphics related. 1) The patent shows as much. 2) What the hell are you going to use 256 GFlops processing on if you dump your physics onto another chip?!?!
The one area Cell won't have as strong a performance as many solutions is graphics. It'd be the smartest area to beef up if you could. Self shadowing and reflections would add a nice addition to PS3 visuals without demanding anything of the content creators, saving them time and money (no reflection map, perhaps less UV coordinate concerns).
Remember though, just 'coz it's in a patent doesn't mean it'll ever see the light of day.
PC-Engine said:
:? WTF is that thing?!!
McFly said:london-boy said::? WTF is that thing?!!
A 16TFlop chip.
Fredi
An oven!!
hugo said:
You can see those too, that are here
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=509682#509682
Revolution...
Jesus why would they want to have all that on one chip?! It's not gonna happen for a LONG time anyway... but still, that would require a process that's rather... small.
What's the process limit for silicon again? (when you can't go any smaller basically)
What's the process limit for silicon again? (when you can't go any smaller basically)
Megadrive1988
Veteran
london-boy said:PC-Engine said:
:? WTF is that thing?!!
oh that's just PlayStation4's insignificant little I/O chip
Why on earth drag up a zillion old pictures? You're somewhat over-zealous with your image attachments IMO PCE, whether diagrams or screeshots. This is supposed to be a discussion forum, not a friggin' art gallery!
Sorry to break into the conversation seeing as I am a fresh member, but I thought everybody knew that
PS3 has 4 Cell processors@theoretical 1 TeraFLOPS ???
For more precise information, take a peek here:
http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cells/Cell6.html
It is not very light reading, but if you know anything about processors it is most interesting.
BTW I have some thoughts on the matter of CELL+ GPU operation:
CELL is going to do all the physics, AI, perhaps vertex and even shader calculations (seeing as its raw power far surpasses anything else currently available at console and graphics card level, and as it is designed for floating point operations).
This all makes much more sense if you consider the changes taking place in the PC game development scene: namely the Physics Processor that is due for launch in the autumn, and is ALREADY supported by 14 different titles, including EPIC's Unreal 3 engine.
nVidia GPU will provide the usual graphics features, enough video memory and a MASSIVE FILLRATE, since this is the one thing that CELL cannot do.
PS3 has 4 Cell processors@theoretical 1 TeraFLOPS ???
For more precise information, take a peek here:
http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cells/Cell6.html
It is not very light reading, but if you know anything about processors it is most interesting.
BTW I have some thoughts on the matter of CELL+ GPU operation:
CELL is going to do all the physics, AI, perhaps vertex and even shader calculations (seeing as its raw power far surpasses anything else currently available at console and graphics card level, and as it is designed for floating point operations).
This all makes much more sense if you consider the changes taking place in the PC game development scene: namely the Physics Processor that is due for launch in the autumn, and is ALREADY supported by 14 different titles, including EPIC's Unreal 3 engine.
nVidia GPU will provide the usual graphics features, enough video memory and a MASSIVE FILLRATE, since this is the one thing that CELL cannot do.