PS3 firmwares 2.0 and 2.10

I'm not sure if you have a 360 or how much Live experience you have. You're greatly exaggerating the interruption that the notifications cause. The amount of times I've died in a FPS or went off the track in a driving game due to a notification can be counted on one finger.

They are very seamless. There is no pause of hitch during gameplay. A simple message comes on in varying sized windows with a quick summary of the message and disappears just as fast and seamlessly. At this point you can choose to pause the game and explore it further or keep on playing. If for whatever reason, you want them off, that's easy to do also. Game invites will disappear on their own if you don't open up the message.

I'll take the current system that gives me a quick message and doesn't force me to pause the game vs a ping/indicator and me having to interrupt the game to see what the message is.

Yes, except patsu is referring to the PS3 and PSN (specifically while playing Warhawk, it seems), not the 360 and Live. Notifications come up in a completely different area.
 
PS3 now recognizes AVI files via DLNA but it won't play them. Perhaps we'll see that in another update or maybe a codec pack for sale. WMV files are still "unsupported" but thats what the 360 is for. :)
 
They brought back the section about what updates are included in the update process.

The update process now also goes through 2 phases. After the initial, normal, update process, it restarts, and goes to an updating database part (which is really quick), and finally restarts back to the XMB.

Content grouping added for Video and Game.
  • Video content can be grouped by title, month, and album. Title essentially breaks into alphabetical folders. You can edit the title and album tags
  • Games can be grouped by format. PS3 and PS1 being two of the categories. Which helps clean up the Game tab a lot for those of us with many downloads. A secondary, demo and PSN game tag would also be great.
Photo playlist let you add individual pics to a list, as well as entire folders (folders being the grouped tags, not actual folder support). So, if you have your photos grouped by month, you can create a playlist with a few files from October, and then add the entire month of November. Proper folder support for Photo is still desperately needed, however. EDIT Conversely, an Album tag has been added for photo. Which could be of great use for organizing them into tagged folders, as group by album is not supported for Photo. Although that's a clumsy solution for those with lots of photos to organize, as it would have to be done by hand. Although the predictive text entry would help greatly with that as previous Album entries are stored.

The Information Bar, IMO, needs to be redone, design wise. Make it a scrolling ticker for the entire bottom or top, because its too short right now to be of much use. Or just have it as a little icon, like the orange one to the left of it, that blinks when new alerts are available (and then lets you read the entire entry after going to it, just as it does now). The current one just simply looks a bit awkward. They need to have the team who designed the XMB itself, design the Information Bar so that it flows with the rest of the interface.
 
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Content grouping added for Video and Game.
  • Video content can be grouped by title, month, and album. Title essentially breaks into alphabetical folders. You can edit the title and album tags
  • Games can be grouped by format. PS3 and PS1 being two of the categories. Which helps clean up the Game tab a lot for those of us with many downloads. A secondary, demo and PSN game tag would also be great.

Looks like you can add extra tags http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4RGCviklyY
 
I'm not sure if you have a 360 or how much Live experience you have. You're greatly exaggerating the interruption that the notifications cause. The amount of times I've died in a FPS or went off the track in a driving game due to a notification can be counted on one finger.

Huh ? I am talking about The PSN Notification (Look at the thread title, it is PS3 2.0 firmware). If 360 exhibits the same behaviour, then yes... it also deserves the same enhancement.

They are very seamless. There is no pause of hitch during gameplay. A simple message comes on in varying sized windows with a quick summary of the message and disappears just as fast and seamlessly. At this point you can choose to pause the game and explore it further or keep on playing. If for whatever reason, you want them off, that's easy to do also. Game invites will disappear on their own if you don't open up the message.

Yes... seamless, but the short notification still blocked my view for 2 seconds or so nonetheless. I could be in the middle of a hunt and gun round (in fact, this is usually what happened). I have FPS meetups every week night. So buddies in the clan/group shows up incrementally about an hour before the game, and will increase the exposure/frequency.

Perhaps you don't have a regular (large enough) group of people to gun with ? If so, you may suffer less.

I'll take the current system that gives me a quick message and doesn't force me to pause the game vs a ping/indicator and me having to interrupt the game to see what the message is.

You don't necessarily have to compromise like what pipo suggested (Turning off the network component is too drastic). Just as I said, some enhancement in UI will do.

Yes, except patsu is referring to the PS3 and PSN (specifically while playing Warhawk, it seems), not the 360 and Live. Notifications come up in a completely different area.

Ah ! Someone who "gets" it :)
It's Resistance.
 
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:oops: [Looks at Captain Deepbrown] I will get on Warhawk some day, but I am having problem putting the Carbine down it seems. It's stucked.






I really look forward to Thanksgiving this year.
 
Huh ? I am talking about The PSN Notification...

Oh. Ah. I see. We both thought we were discussing the 360 implementation. And that's the one you can turn off too... :)

And it doesn't block a thing. Sometimes I even miss one.

You don't necessarily have to compromise like what pipo suggested (Turning off the network component is too drastic). Just as I said, some enhancement in UI will do.

Sure. But that was for the guys who keep on saying they don't like online and get a lot of messages they don't want.

Like I've said before, the 360 version is pretty good, as devs can position notifications and even delay them (in case of a cut scene or whatever)...
 
Remote Play still needs some work. Remote Start is an excellent addition, but does you no good if your PS3 is already on and not in Remote Play mode. It pretty much needs to run in the background (during XMB and Folding only , of course) waiting for a remote session to initiate. That would round the feature out completely.

I wonder what the power draw during standby is now. I can see that the WiFi light is still active.
 
The Information Bar, IMO, needs to be redone, design wise. Make it a scrolling ticker for the entire bottom or top, because its too short right now to be of much use. Or just have it as a little icon, like the orange one to the left of it, that blinks when new alerts are available (and then lets you read the entire entry after going to it, just as it does now). The current one just simply looks a bit awkward. They need to have the team who designed the XMB itself, design the Information Bar so that it flows with the rest of the interface.

I agree that it looks "tacked on" like a 3rd party app or something.
I just turned it off. But maybe the design can also be changed when there are downloadable themes available in the future.

Edit: Just found at GAF that there is a tool to make custom themes: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206386
 
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I don't know if this was added in 2.0 or not, but the "Start New Chat" feature is drastically different now. Looks like they intend to have different "rooms" available. The current one has a very close resemblance to the all white room featured in current PS3 commercials, with 5 floating spheres representing the 5 others you can have in a chat. The spheres are replaced by the friends avatar or video stream. The whole setup looks quite nice, very stylized, I like it a lot.
 
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The online notification messages that pop up on top of radar bug me too but I wouldn't disable them. I think games should be able to register dedicated notification areas suitable for their hud.

Regarding this update, PSN news widget looks really out of place so I disabled it.
But I like the theme that comes with the update. Apparently there is even a theme builder somewhere. XMB version would be nicer.

The only disappointing part of the update is the missing in game friend list.
But the real interesting improvements I would like to see are:
p2p downloading,
suspend/hibernate to disk (hopeless),
PSN to jabber/yahoo/aim gateways, or PC PSN client for a/v chat,
ability to start playing videos while downloading,
etc.
 
The Information Bar, IMO, needs to be redone, design wise. Make it a scrolling ticker for the entire bottom or top, because its too short right now to be of much use. Or just have it as a little icon, like the orange one to the left of it, that blinks when new alerts are available (and then lets you read the entire entry after going to it, just as it does now). The current one just simply looks a bit awkward. They need to have the team who designed the XMB itself, design the Information Bar so that it flows with the rest of the interface.

Yes... or just build it as an extension of the XMB messaging in the following way:

* Have a new category of messages called "News" to deliver RSS messages (or Sony announcements and admin messages).

* Expand messaging options to let users customize their preferred reading behaviour (e.g., whether to accept "News" in-game. Default should be "Off"). Remember PSN can deliver HTML in-game too.

* Get rid of Information Bar. It's much better to give users proper information/communication management tool than a shallow promo tool. Sony can use the same communication tool to talk to its customers.

ability to start playing videos while downloading,
etc.

I was told in 2.0, you can stream video now (i..e, view while downloading)

Gradthrawn said:
I don't know if this was added in 2.0 or not, but the "Start New Chat" feature is drastically different now. Looks like they intend to have different "rooms" available. The current one has a very close resemblance to the all white room featured in current PS3 commercials, with 5 floating spheres representing the 5 others you can have in a chat. The spheres are replaced by the friends avatar or video stream. The whole setup looks quite nice, very stylized, I like it a lot.

Yeah... probably new and to prepare for PS Home.
 
Early 2008 (I think Feb 2008). Beta this month or next.

The video streaming feature in 2.0 (if it's indeed there) might be the foundation for video streaming in Home also.
 
Will I have to subscribe for the Beta like in the past?

I am eager to try it.

Btw what do you mean by video streaming??
 
When\s Home due?
Spring '08
Kaz Hirai said:
“If anything, we believe the delay would have a positive effect. I personally am not satisfied with the current version of Home. This is a very big project for the PS3 and we want to make sure that we deliver to our hearts content. We hope everyone will look forward to its spring release next year.”
 
Still no playlists for videos still no way to play more than one and the pause, select new one.. :(

The videos in PS3 are stateful. They will remember where you left off. So just watch one, quit halfway, watch another one, quit and go back to the first one.

Nesh said:
Will I have to subscribe for the Beta like in the past?

I am eager to try it.

Btw what do you mean by video streaming??

Go to PSN store and download a video. I was told there is a new button for immediate playback now.

As for Home Beta, you know as much as I do. ;-)
 
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