PS3 Firmware 1.80 - PS/PS2/DVD upscaling, DLNA and more!
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djskribbles
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setting RGB to Full helps eliminate black crush with DVD/Blu-ray. before, i could not see the drop down shadow behind the THX logo in the THX optimizer test, but setting RGB to full allows me to see the drop down shadow. however, setting RGB to full seems to lower my game/xmb brightness by about 6 notches. in CoD3, theres a brightness test in the options, and according to that, my brightness was about 6 notches too low.
something else weird happens when i set RGB to full too. when i load a DVD and/or Blu-Ray movie, and exit back to the XMB, either the RGB goes back to "Limited" or my brightness changes somehow because it goes brighter. but when i go to launch a game, its still dark, but when i exit to XMB, its dark again.
something else weird happens when i set RGB to full too. when i load a DVD and/or Blu-Ray movie, and exit back to the XMB, either the RGB goes back to "Limited" or my brightness changes somehow because it goes brighter. but when i go to launch a game, its still dark, but when i exit to XMB, its dark again.
That shot of god of war at 1080p with filtering is pretty sweet.
Shame a side effect of the filter is the blur though.
Don't know what that guy with Casino Royale is on about, the 720p version looks miles better than the 1080i one his tv scaled. Look at the nose, the 720p one is nice and straight, you can see the steps in the 1080i one.
djskribbles
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there is only a very slight blur. but it cleans up a lot of the jaggies.
as for the 720p vs 1080i casino royale shots, i have to agree with him. i think the 1080i shot is noticeably sharper, and the steps you speak of aren't that bad imo. i think the difference between 1080i and 720p will depend on how good your scaler is and obviously what your sets native res is.
Is there a setting that enables blacker than black for non RGB connection, the Y Pb / Cb Pr / Cr?
My projector has something weird when set RGB, it displays a green image no matter if I set the PS to RGB or Y Pb / Cb Pr / Cr
My projector has something weird when set RGB, it displays a green image no matter if I set the PS to RGB or Y Pb / Cb Pr / Cr
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Gradthrawn
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It will scale to your maxium selected resolution. So, 1080i in your case, 720p in my case (since I disabled 1080i as its no longer needed with 720p BD playback now supported).
inefficient
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The PS2 enhancements are just ok for me. I actually don't like the filtered mode it has. It does smooth out the edges, but it feels like you are losing detail. I'm sure it suits some games better than others. SoC looks better without it I feel for instance.
The upscaled PS2 games do look slightly better than before. But it's pretty subtle. It still very much looks like a PS2 game. You have to look pretty hard to see the improvements.
DVD movie upscaling I like quite a bit. Again its not WOW, especially since I have been watching a lot of BR movies recently. But it certainly it's a nice thing to have. And it improvements seem to be more obvious when the film is in motion than when you are looking at a still.
I tried taking some pictures with a digital camera. But the improvements for both games and DVD were not really obvious when you just take photos off the screen. Some kind of direct feed comparison is really the only way to go here.
Also during testing I noticed for the first time that when you exit DVD playback, or quit to the XMB, the next time you start up the DVD it starts playback from the exact place you left off. Nice! Although this was probably in the since the original version of the FW.
Also I like the additions to photo mode. You can zoom in on the photo now.
The upscaled PS2 games do look slightly better than before. But it's pretty subtle. It still very much looks like a PS2 game. You have to look pretty hard to see the improvements.
DVD movie upscaling I like quite a bit. Again its not WOW, especially since I have been watching a lot of BR movies recently. But it certainly it's a nice thing to have. And it improvements seem to be more obvious when the film is in motion than when you are looking at a still.
I tried taking some pictures with a digital camera. But the improvements for both games and DVD were not really obvious when you just take photos off the screen. Some kind of direct feed comparison is really the only way to go here.
Also during testing I noticed for the first time that when you exit DVD playback, or quit to the XMB, the next time you start up the DVD it starts playback from the exact place you left off. Nice! Although this was probably in the since the original version of the FW.
Also I like the additions to photo mode. You can zoom in on the photo now.
Yeap, it's been in there since the start. (Well the start in Europe anyway)
inefficient
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Good advise from andrewfee over on the GAF on whether or not you should use the "RGB Full Range" option on the PS3.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6518516&postcount=1450
Tested on my KDL-40V2500 using that benchmark and it does seem to support the Full Range setting over HDMI.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6518516&postcount=1450
Tested on my KDL-40V2500 using that benchmark and it does seem to support the Full Range setting over HDMI.
There's a fair number of photo comparisons on GAF, where there is a noticeable difference. I think edges and UI/text is the most obvious place to see it.
BTW, apparently you can stream AVI movies to your PS3 using Nero MediaHome and its transcoding. I'm about to try out a demo of it myself, but supposedly it works - there's a video of it out there, showing even a XVid video at least being listed properly. It might take a little while to figure out what the best server software is as far as transcoding etc. goes..but this looks promising as far as going beyond what the PS3 alone plays natively
edit - here's a pic. It's a small thing, but Nero Home even seems to send a thumbnail for each video too, something twonky and tversity don't:
Just tested with Windows Media Connect. Streams MP3's fine, same as the 360. And now just watched my first Divx movie on the PS3 via Nero MediaHome, video streamed fine but the audio was a little corrupted.
djskribbles
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i tested my set, and i can see all the boxes in "Full" mode, but i have to raise the brightness by 7 notches. setting my RGB to Limited allows me to have the same brightness level for both DVD and games.
How did the Divx look? there is a fair chance it (Nero) transcodes formats it doesn´t think the destination DNLA supports.
Gradthrawn
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Found something on the UK update notes that's been overlooked, but is crucial, particularly for some of us with SO:3 saves:
Now we can copy over the Trophy file from our PS2 Memory Cards.
Thought this might also be of interest:
Now we can copy over the Trophy file from our PS2 Memory Cards.
Thought this might also be of interest:
x.v.YCC support, as some had speculated, has been added, and wasn't mentioned in any of the press releases I've seen.
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It was transcoding it into MPG2, picture quality was exactly the same though. It was only the first one I tried that had crackly sound all the others have been spot on.
Don't know if this playback gets upscaled though, my HDTV is on the way (Sony KDL40W2000U), so I couldn't test that.
depends on resolution. your usual Divx/Xvid files you got from teh interwebs would require 3,5 ghz.
It was running at between 40 an 60 percent on an Athlon XP2500+.
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