PS2 vs. Xbox - Battle of the Exclusives (Gamerankings.com)
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The hasn't been much copying to do in anycase, it's been more of an aspect of executing an implimentation... Pretty much most of that functionality has been in the network toolkits for both platforms since they've been available (server-side specifics aside)... There's been a few minor differences though (e.g. "THAT limited architecture" had a voice recognition SDK well before Xbox (and the voice recognition algorithms has been extensively commercially battle tested for over 4 years))...
Indeed, I'm quite astonished myself how well it's doing....
Vince said:
Dunno, but I brought it up as a notable exclusion. I'm really curious to see how it fares over here. ^_^ (Will American laziness trump fun/ingenuity? [I can say that since I'm both American and lazy.
] News at 11:00!)Amped is a game most people could care less about.. snowboard games are repative and not worth more than a rent.
Rainbow Six 3 is not exclusive, it is coming to PS2
limiting yourself to a certain small time period hardly paints any kind of picture of how good ones exclusives are, when it comes to the best exclusives PS2 wins over any console hands down(coming from a girl who owns all three but is partial to Nintendo games).
Rainbow Six 3 is not exclusive, it is coming to PS2
limiting yourself to a certain small time period hardly paints any kind of picture of how good ones exclusives are, when it comes to the best exclusives PS2 wins over any console hands down(coming from a girl who owns all three but is partial to Nintendo games).
LisaJoy said:
interesting opinion... still, i guess the snowboarding-type-games-statement comes down to taste.
this is from someone who spent tens and tens of hours trying to unlock everything in SSX Tricky and will do the same for SSX3....
marconelly!
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One other game I'm hoping might be great is Karaoke Revolution. Made by Harmonix, people who made Amplitude and Frequency. To me, that alone makes it worth a look.
marconelly! said:
u serious!!!!??
oh my god i was almost gonna overlook this thinking it was just a "pop idol-spoof" kind of thing......
Johnny Awesome
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Lisa, whether or not you like snowboarding games has nothng to do with this thread. Besides, you couldn't unlock 20% of Amped 2 in one rental. It's just not possible.
As for what system has better exclusives? I still think Xbox has better exclusives than PS2, mainly because I don't salivate over turn-based Japanese RPGs. Don't forget that GTA3 and MGS2 aren't exclusive to PS2 anymore. I also prefer PGR to GT, KOTOR to any other RPG, and Halo to anything on any system.
But this thread isn't about MY tastes. It's about the collective tastes of reviewers, with regards to this holiday's releases.
As for what system has better exclusives? I still think Xbox has better exclusives than PS2, mainly because I don't salivate over turn-based Japanese RPGs. Don't forget that GTA3 and MGS2 aren't exclusive to PS2 anymore. I also prefer PGR to GT, KOTOR to any other RPG, and Halo to anything on any system.
But this thread isn't about MY tastes. It's about the collective tastes of reviewers, with regards to this holiday's releases.
ok, trying to discount GTA3 is like trying to Discount Halo on Xbox...its been an extremely long time, and pretty much everyone on the planet has played the crap out of, and long since been well over the GTA3 franchise.. PS2 has a crazy amount of top notch exclusives that never have and never will hit Xbox.. SOCOM is still tons better than the 3 year old PC ports Xbox has been offering as thier top notch Tactical shooters.. Jak II vs Voodoo Vince and Blinx... no contest..
Amped wasnt a very memorable game, and the sequel isnt surpassing it by any means(SSX3 has an average rating of 95%, while Amped 2 has a very average 81%.. your opinion(obviously Xbox biased to the very core) doesnt hold much when you compare it to hundreds of professional game reviewers.. Amped 2 is nothing above an average radical sports game..
and thus far, and in the list, its the only games thats exclusive(being Ninja Gaiden isnt out, and we dont know how its going to turn out)
Amped wasnt a very memorable game, and the sequel isnt surpassing it by any means(SSX3 has an average rating of 95%, while Amped 2 has a very average 81%.. your opinion(obviously Xbox biased to the very core) doesnt hold much when you compare it to hundreds of professional game reviewers.. Amped 2 is nothing above an average radical sports game..
and thus far, and in the list, its the only games thats exclusive(being Ninja Gaiden isnt out, and we dont know how its going to turn out)
Isn't Karaoke Revolution from Konami?marconelly! said:
I thought Sony's 'Sing' was made by Harmonix.
Could be very wrong though, as Harmonix might made KR for Konami.
Too bad I have absolutely no singing voice, these Karaoke games are interesting, but I'd have to play them when no-one hears, or very drunk
marconelly!
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That's exactly the case!
http://www.gamespot.com/company/harmonixmusicsystems.html
No idea what is 'Sing' or who is making it, though. Some issues ago, EGM had a writeup where they tested KR and Xbox Music Mixer Karaoke. You can see their impressions there. Basically, they said KR works as advertised (gives you scores for good singing), has really good, very fitting music selection (it's Harmonix, after all
and they thought it's lots of fun.Johnny Awesome
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Lisa, you obviously didn't read the whole list I put up. Btw, Amped 2 is as good as the gamer who plays it. Personally I'm glad that the Xbox has both SSX3 and Amped 2. The PS2 does not.
SOCOM II wasn't out when I created the list. I'm sure it will help the PS2 recover some face this holiday.
Also, you'll notice that I didn't include Voodoo Vince on the list as it did not score above 80%. I agree that Jak II is the better game. My list however is very unbiased. The scores aren't mine remember.
SOCOM II wasn't out when I created the list. I'm sure it will help the PS2 recover some face this holiday.
Also, you'll notice that I didn't include Voodoo Vince on the list as it did not score above 80%. I agree that Jak II is the better game. My list however is very unbiased. The scores aren't mine remember.
I know this, I Said Socom.. you didnt give a date, you just listed 4 games(for Xbox).. a list in which two of the games are not even exclusive.
So where are the other 100+ exclusive PS2 games, the other Dozens of them that just came out? is it a list of one weeks releases?
I can pull a list out of my butt like that as well..
Battle of the Exclusives!!! GC Vs Xbox
Fzero, Mario Kart, Viewtiful Joe
vs
Bruce Lee
who wins?
if your not going to make an actual factual list with some sort of order to it, its kind of hard for us to take it too seriously.
So where are the other 100+ exclusive PS2 games, the other Dozens of them that just came out? is it a list of one weeks releases?
I can pull a list out of my butt like that as well..
Battle of the Exclusives!!! GC Vs Xbox
Fzero, Mario Kart, Viewtiful Joe
vs
Bruce Lee
who wins?
if your not going to make an actual factual list with some sort of order to it, its kind of hard for us to take it too seriously.
how can anyone say Xbox has more or better exclusive games than PS2 or GC????
i mean, yeah it's getting GTA3+Vice city *respectively 2 years and 1 year after they was released on PS2*
MGS2 substance was multiplatform, yeah, PS2 is getting MGS3...
and by the way, it's not like PS2 ONLY has turn based RPGs.... actually it has only one worth noticing (actually 2, but FFX2 is not out yet in europe, i forgot about that one)
games like JAK2, R&C, the GT series, SH series, ZOE series, GTA series, MGS series are all PS2 exclusives...
and they are some of the best games this generation together with the best Nintendo games...
what does Xbox have? Halo? DOA?? PGR?? Amped??
(this is coming from someone who is only waiting to have enough money to buy an Xbox)
i mean, yeah it's getting GTA3+Vice city *respectively 2 years and 1 year after they was released on PS2*
MGS2 substance was multiplatform, yeah, PS2 is getting MGS3...
and by the way, it's not like PS2 ONLY has turn based RPGs.... actually it has only one worth noticing (actually 2, but FFX2 is not out yet in europe, i forgot about that one)
games like JAK2, R&C, the GT series, SH series, ZOE series, GTA series, MGS series are all PS2 exclusives...
and they are some of the best games this generation together with the best Nintendo games...
what does Xbox have? Halo? DOA?? PGR?? Amped??
(this is coming from someone who is only waiting to have enough money to buy an Xbox)
Top spin? :?
"a lot" of others is stretching it a bit . not when compared to PS2 and GC. even DC.
"a lot" of others is stretching it a bit . not when compared to PS2 and GC. even DC.
Johnny Awesome
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Hey, you guys might be sore about the whole thing, but this thread was about Gamerankings.com highly rated exclusive games. Then when I change the Rainbow Six 3 to "time-exclusive" on the list everyone goes nuts, but then defends GTA3 as a PS2 time-exclusive. LOL!
I already listed why I think the Xbox line-up has been superior to the PS2 lineup for my own tastes (Halo, PGR, Amped, JSRF, PDO, Crimson Skies, Top Spin, etc...), but that isn't relevant here. I'm sorry that you guys don't agree with the legions of reviewers who think Amped 2 and Top Spin are very good games, but that's you're own personal bias.
The fact is that the Xbox will probably end up having more 80+ rated exclusvies at Gamerankings.com this holiday. If that's not relevant to you then move on. Go play 2-player SSX3 or something
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3
From Penny Arcade:
Playing the excellent SSX3 just made me angrier. This feud between EA and Microsoft has got to stop. It's hurting the kids.
When it was just regular sports games, I didn't really care. I wasn't running out there half-dressed to get a copy of Madden, got to get that Madden. The fact that their games only supported two players was silly in some cases, illustrated best by Tiger Woods 2004 (where they simply don't allow you to play the more interesting modes) and Nascar Thunder 2004 (race with as many as... one other driver). When they say Head To Head play, let's be clear - they mean only two heads. But when they started releasing what were essentially neutered forms of games, excising multiplayer co-op in Return of the King and Medal of Honor: Rising Sun, or leaving out multiplayer altogether in SSX3, I just flipped out. Every console has exclusives. I expect that. While multiplatform games provide at least the illusion of choice, antics like this completely pierce that notion. The Xbox and Gamecube versions are incomplete.
It was easy to think of EA's offering and Microsoft's offering as fungible initially. EA was doing theirs for free, and Microsoft had a pay service, and obviously free is... nice. But while I was being desiccated by Las Vegas nights soaked with alcohol, it seemed to me that their service is free because it sucks. It's free because it is so without ambition that it can be offered for nothing, until such time as they want to charge for it. Why else would they reserve the right, why else would they go through all the trouble?
I've spent enough time on Live with recent titles that it's impossible for me to compare the two approaches. You don't sign in to Live, you don't create a password, you push A. Every game supports voice and a universal friends list I can view from the web. I have a hard disk built in for content. There is an ethernet port. That's not so you can put a jelly bean in there in case you need it later, it's so you can put in a cable and access the Internet. You donkeypits.
That is all to say nothing about game invites. If I'm playing a game by Ubi Soft, I can still receive invites to play games from other developers - each publisher doesn't have it's own little fairy land where I can only play games with other people who have their games. I can be playing Crimson Skies and get an invite to play Ghost Recon. If I say yes, the tray pops out and I put in the other disc. Then, it joins me automatically. When I can do that with games from EA, I'll shut the flock up. Until then, they need to act like big people and make choices that are of value to consumers.
I already listed why I think the Xbox line-up has been superior to the PS2 lineup for my own tastes (Halo, PGR, Amped, JSRF, PDO, Crimson Skies, Top Spin, etc...), but that isn't relevant here. I'm sorry that you guys don't agree with the legions of reviewers who think Amped 2 and Top Spin are very good games, but that's you're own personal bias.
The fact is that the Xbox will probably end up having more 80+ rated exclusvies at Gamerankings.com this holiday. If that's not relevant to you then move on. Go play 2-player SSX3 or something
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3
From Penny Arcade:
Playing the excellent SSX3 just made me angrier. This feud between EA and Microsoft has got to stop. It's hurting the kids.
When it was just regular sports games, I didn't really care. I wasn't running out there half-dressed to get a copy of Madden, got to get that Madden. The fact that their games only supported two players was silly in some cases, illustrated best by Tiger Woods 2004 (where they simply don't allow you to play the more interesting modes) and Nascar Thunder 2004 (race with as many as... one other driver). When they say Head To Head play, let's be clear - they mean only two heads. But when they started releasing what were essentially neutered forms of games, excising multiplayer co-op in Return of the King and Medal of Honor: Rising Sun, or leaving out multiplayer altogether in SSX3, I just flipped out. Every console has exclusives. I expect that. While multiplatform games provide at least the illusion of choice, antics like this completely pierce that notion. The Xbox and Gamecube versions are incomplete.
It was easy to think of EA's offering and Microsoft's offering as fungible initially. EA was doing theirs for free, and Microsoft had a pay service, and obviously free is... nice. But while I was being desiccated by Las Vegas nights soaked with alcohol, it seemed to me that their service is free because it sucks. It's free because it is so without ambition that it can be offered for nothing, until such time as they want to charge for it. Why else would they reserve the right, why else would they go through all the trouble?
I've spent enough time on Live with recent titles that it's impossible for me to compare the two approaches. You don't sign in to Live, you don't create a password, you push A. Every game supports voice and a universal friends list I can view from the web. I have a hard disk built in for content. There is an ethernet port. That's not so you can put a jelly bean in there in case you need it later, it's so you can put in a cable and access the Internet. You donkeypits.
That is all to say nothing about game invites. If I'm playing a game by Ubi Soft, I can still receive invites to play games from other developers - each publisher doesn't have it's own little fairy land where I can only play games with other people who have their games. I can be playing Crimson Skies and get an invite to play Ghost Recon. If I say yes, the tray pops out and I put in the other disc. Then, it joins me automatically. When I can do that with games from EA, I'll shut the flock up. Until then, they need to act like big people and make choices that are of value to consumers.
marconelly!
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Funny thing is that most of the stuff PA guy is bitching about *can* indeed be done with EA games online. Also, Xbox live would actually be even more ambitious if every single game wasn't hosted on consoles themselves. If you're paying already, why is it so hard for them to provide servers for their games? And if by 'acting like big people' they mean 'not getting incentives from Sony for doing what they are doing', then yeah, sure. There's a logic behind everything there, and I'm surprised that they, of all people, seem to be oblivious to it.