PS2 Soul Calibur II

[marconelly!]

Well, I'll be damned, but I don't see any background shimmering. If you are talking about the slight floor shimmer - I think that is because Japanese developers don't like to overuse mip-mapping and blur the distant textures completely (see DOA3 for an example of mip-mapping being used but not overused) SC2 does use mip mapping in all three versions As far as I've seen in pictures.

 

[chaphack]

If you are talking about the slight floor shimmer

That somewhat it. And i dont think it is slight. Very noticeable to me, even from screens.

eg. my guess that the scene below will exihibit some shimmering.

I guess you are just less susceptible to shimmering. Remember the Grand Prix Challenge thing?

 

[marconelly!]

It will shimmer, no question about it. But I wouldn't be all surprised if other two version would have it (perhaps lessened) As I've said, look at DOA3 (or new Ninja Gaiden for that matter)

Remember the Grand Prix Challenge thing?

Nope, never saw it after all the comments about the terrible image quality. If you have it, can you compare it to say GT3 (overall). How does it fare in your opinion?

 

[Grall]

Looking from that screenshot it looks more like polygon edge aliasing rather than mipmapping/texture issues. You'd see such shimmering on any console today since FSAA in general isn't used much (which you already KNOW by the way).

Don't get your ass banned again Chap with your well-known, patented overly fanboyish outbursts. We'd be so sad to see you go.


*G*

 

[London Geezer]

Looking from that screenshot it looks more like polygon edge aliasing rather than mipmapping/texture issues. You'd see such shimmering on any console today since FSAA in general isn't used much (which you already KNOW by the way).

Don't get your ass banned again Chap with your well-known, patented overly fanboyish outbursts. We'd be so sad to see you go.


*G*

SO HE DID GET BANNED!!!!!!!!!1

and he also came up with the *i lost my password* thing

 

[chaphack]

I was NEVER ban. I mean why should i be bannned?
I suspect someone might be hacking my PC.

 

[chaphack]

Nope, never saw it after all the comments about the terrible image quality. If you have it, can you compare it to say GT3 (overall). How does it fare in your opinion?

I do not have that game.

What I meant was, the last time(b4 it was released) we saw the videos, i commented on the shimmery nature of the background, while you said there was no visible shimmering. Remember something like that back then.

 

[LogisticX]

Like stated, I bet there will be shimmering in all three versions, there's almost no way to completely eliminate it. Perhaps the Xbox version will be cleaned up some with the support of 720p, but even then, it'll still be there in some shape or form.

That's another thing, what is it in the Xbox that allows it to pump out 720p while PS2 and even Gamecube do not. Is that feature native to the hardware?



And although chaps made a pretty picky statement, I'd say its a fair one at least this time.


Lastly, am I the only one that finds the screenshot Chap posted beautiful? Heihachi is the man.

 

[London Geezer]

Like stated, I bet there will be shimmering in all three versions, there's almost no way to completely eliminate it. Perhaps the Xbox version will be cleaned up some with the support of 720p, but even then, it'll still be there in some shape or form.

That's another thing, what is it in the Xbox that allows it to pump out 720p while PS2 and even Gamecube do not. Is that feature native to the hardware?



And although chaps made a pretty picky statement, I'd say its a fair one at least this time.


Lastly, am I the only one that finds the screenshot Chap posted beautiful? Heihachi is the man.

let's call it a bit more power in the graphics setup in the Xbox... more bandwidth mainly. not sure about the GC, but if u wanted 720P output on PS2 u'd have to cut other things...

still, i'm amazed at how just because of bad localisation and especiall international issues, the PS2 version will end up looking better (at least from an IQ point of view) than the other 2 thanks to Pro-Scan and thanx to anyone who decided to cut it from PAL XBOX and GC but keep it on PS2... hell, i for one would buy an Xbox just to see this splendor in 720P, seriously, especially at the price u can find one nowadays....

 

[maskrider]

Got the GameCube version of SC II today, first impression is that it is a bit not as sharp and detailed as the PS2 version.

Will take some shots and let you check them later on.

 

[maskrider]

Got the GameCube version of SC II today, first impression is that it is a bit not as sharp and detailed as the PS2 version.

Will take some shots and let you check them later on.

Here is just 2 shots for preliminary checkout

http://www.felixmcli.org/sc2-main.html

 

[chaphack]

THANKS MASK! Nice effort, hope to see more compare shots. Are you getting the Xbox version too?

Looks about the same, i think i can see the GC one having a better filtering(hence the slight blur) in the backgrounds.

 

[London Geezer]

THANKS MASK! Nice effort, hope to see more compare shots. Are you getting the Xbox version too?

Looks about the same, i think i can see the GC one having a better filtering(hence the slight blur) in the backgrounds.

SEE, i hate the blur effect in GC and some Xbox games.... PS2 games in pro-scan mode are the sharpest thing i've ever seen... well, some of...

 

[chaphack]

THANKS MASK! Nice effort, hope to see more compare shots. Are you getting the Xbox version too?

Looks about the same, i think i can see the GC one having a better filtering(hence the slight blur) in the backgrounds.

SEE, i hate the blur effect in GC and some Xbox games.... PS2 games in pro-scan mode are the sharpest thing i've ever seen... well, some of...

I rather have a slight blur(more stable image) rather than "swimming" textures(less stable image).
You need to see more Xbox games in proscan.

 

[London Geezer]

THANKS MASK! Nice effort, hope to see more compare shots. Are you getting the Xbox version too?

Looks about the same, i think i can see the GC one having a better filtering(hence the slight blur) in the backgrounds.

SEE, i hate the blur effect in GC and some Xbox games.... PS2 games in pro-scan mode are the sharpest thing i've ever seen... well, some of...

I rather have a slight blur(more stable image) rather than "swimming" textures(less stable image).
You need to see more Xbox games in proscan.

AS i said many many times, here in europe there is no way u can get the Xbox and GC to output Pro-scan, thats why i said that PS2 in pro-scan is some of the sharpest things i've ever seen

 

[maskrider]

THANKS MASK! Nice effort, hope to see more compare shots. Are you getting the Xbox version too?

Looks about the same, i think i can see the GC one having a better filtering(hence the slight blur) in the backgrounds.

More coming, and call me crazy, I will also be buying the X-BOX version.

Just bought a PAL PS2 today for UK version of The Getaway (a friend of mine in UK has mailed it to me), and certainly the coming Silent Hill 3 UK release, ha ha !

 

[maskrider]

Updated the page with 2 more shots, GC version to me looks like overfiltered.

http://www.felixmcli.org/sc2-main.html

 

[Grall]

Textures seem sharper on PS2 (!), colors more saturated on GC.

Hard to tell for real though with the somewhat unique screen capture method you use.


*G*

 

[maskrider]

Textures seem sharper on PS2 (!), colors more saturated on GC.

Hard to tell for real though with the somewhat unique screen capture method you use.


*G*

True, so true.

No other way unless I run them interlaced through my PCTV card and capture with DScaler.

 

[maskrider]

Updated with interlaced captures with S-Video through PCTV card and DScaler.

Check

http://www.felixmcli.org/sc2-main.html

Scroll down enough to check them.

And a good laughing stuff for you guys

http://www.zen15631.zen.co.uk/bb.mpg