Post Xbox One Two Scorpio, what should Sony do next? *spawn* (oh, and Nintendo?)
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It's not so bad, Neo CPU is 1.3x the clock, and the frame rate above is 1.5x. Even if CPU usage would scale exactly with frame rate, PS4 can still use up to 87% to leave porting effortless.
Add to this the fixed CPU stuff that isn't scaling with frame rate nor resolution, like sound, asset loading, and it might be a perfect balance.
Add to this the fixed CPU stuff that isn't scaling with frame rate nor resolution, like sound, asset loading, and it might be a perfect balance.
More than 20 years ago I was a kid and tried one of the first vr game.
It was alien or alien like, on rails, and the controller served as the gun.
It was running on a very powerfull workstation, maybe with mmx enabled too, the graphic was like first gen ps1, and can't remember lags or framerate, but after all this time I remember it and it has been great.
Now psvr has almost the same demographic target, the same that doesn't care for minumum resolution or framerate or graphic degradation, so stop arguing about it.
It was alien or alien like, on rails, and the controller served as the gun.
It was running on a very powerfull workstation, maybe with mmx enabled too, the graphic was like first gen ps1, and can't remember lags or framerate, but after all this time I remember it and it has been great.
Now psvr has almost the same demographic target, the same that doesn't care for minumum resolution or framerate or graphic degradation, so stop arguing about it.
It's well received all over the place in public. The only exception is bioware founder who said the mid-gen is a pain in the ass. And Colin from KindaFunny talked to mutiple devs off the record and claims everyone is pissed off by this mid-gen.
But one thing is sure, all devs are very happy the consoles are probably staying with x86 and PC-like GPUs for a long time, this allows for so much code reuse. It must have an impact on Epic more than anyone else, since they need to provide their engine as quickly as possible when a new console launch.
They didn't really like the Cell I have no idea why. Maybe they were lazy?
Rumor mongering: 3x 1.84 is equal to....
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That's only flops. Rest isn't 3x, so that's clearly a bunkum statement and no need to delve into speculative maths.
gotta do it by the lowest number cause marketing. So 3x 1.38 = 4.14 !
Don't change the subject. We were talking about the incredible irony where a great parody music video written as a joke to criticise the recent increasing idiocy of pop music, and the superficiality and emptiness of it's writing... became one of the most popular music video in history with 600 million views.
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This really sounds like tick-tock to me.
I'm having fun thinking about this mid-gen problem. There's 6 basic models of platform continuity:
My favorite is definitely tick-tock with new hardware every 3 or 4 years (6-8 years generations). But many gamers would probably want Rolling, while devs would want Free. Can't please everyone. Also each one of these three options is a PR clusterfuck.
- Complete generation reset.
- New generations having only BC.
- Tick-Tock mid-gen cycle, new gens only have BC, mid-gen forces FC, technically the same generation.
- Rolling mid-gen cycle, has BC and every iteration forces FC for one previous hardware.
- Free mid-gen cycle, it's up to the devs to decides if they do FC or not. Dropped based on user base decline.
- No generation, like PC or smartphones. Testing target is only the popular models. Yearly hardware.
If you do not give me Rolling, I am not buying it. Why in the world would I purchase a new $400 console that is only going to be good for 3-4 years at the most? A higher frame rate is sure as hell not remotely enough of an incentive. I'm not sure even an M.2 4x connector would be enough for me then. Given the cost of an decent sized SSD.
Technically true. Now tell me, if that is the case and the PS5 is a whole new generation with BC and no FC for Neo/ Scorpio, would you pay the, likely, $4-600 price tag? I am hard pressed to come think of anyone on my friends list who would.
I think if they don't do BC for PS5 (or as I suggested have a scenario where 3 consoles are supported most of the time) then as long as the entry price is reasonable enough I guess it will be fine but we won't be seeing anything like the launch for PS4 - instead we'll heave steady sales by comparison...and maybe that's what they're aiming for?
If some PS4 gamers upgrade to Neo, which is after 3-4 years, wouldn't they also upgrade to PS5 after 3-4 years? With full BC, and unlocked performance, it means they lose nothing.
Those owning a PS4 and prefering a long cycle would wait for PS5 anyway. And their game library would be enhanced at least to Neo level right at the launch of PS5. It makes Neo a good thing for them, even if they skip it.
There are few reasons a current PS4 owner would be against the tick-tock cycle, except for fringe cases, that would be someone who wants to upgrade after 3-4 years and also wants to skip the PS5 to keep neo for 6-8 years.
There's a big compromise with new buyers. It would probably erode market share during mid-gen, and get a boost during new gen phase with new technology that can be used right at launch instead of being a bit crippled by the binary requirement of previous gen FC.
Publishers would continue to support the previous gen anyway for a year or two, while if PS5 is forced to have Neo FC, the original would get dropped immediately. It's good for Neo but bad for original PS4 owners.
Those owning a PS4 and prefering a long cycle would wait for PS5 anyway. And their game library would be enhanced at least to Neo level right at the launch of PS5. It makes Neo a good thing for them, even if they skip it.
There are few reasons a current PS4 owner would be against the tick-tock cycle, except for fringe cases, that would be someone who wants to upgrade after 3-4 years and also wants to skip the PS5 to keep neo for 6-8 years.
There's a big compromise with new buyers. It would probably erode market share during mid-gen, and get a boost during new gen phase with new technology that can be used right at launch instead of being a bit crippled by the binary requirement of previous gen FC.
Publishers would continue to support the previous gen anyway for a year or two, while if PS5 is forced to have Neo FC, the original would get dropped immediately. It's good for Neo but bad for original PS4 owners.
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