Playstation 5 [PS5] [Release November 12 2020]

Discussion in 'Console Industry' started by BRiT, Mar 17, 2020.

  1. PSman1700

    PSman1700 Legend

    Someone was going to figur this out soon or late. There will be more of those kinda of 'tests' appearing from time to time.
     
  2. chris1515

    chris1515 Legend

    The bottleneck is maybe somewhere else but we will have soon a game benchmark by Digitalfoundry where I expect the PS5 to perform much slower than a 2080 Ti and it will be interesting to compare to a 5700XT.

    EDIT:

    https://sluglibrary.com/SlugDemo.zip

    There is a demo available on windows it is possible to compare GPU result.

    https://sluglibrary.com/

    The demo use arial but it is possible to change to any font.

     
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  3. anexanhume

    anexanhume Veteran

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  4. JPT

    JPT Veteran

    Japan and US models had full PS2 hardware for bc. EU launch modell had partial hardware. I do not remember if it was the ps2 cpu or gpu that got removed at EU launch.
     
  5. BillSpencer

    BillSpencer Regular

    It was the CPU, but in the end, every PS3 even the ones without any PS2 hardware received full software BC, with hacks you could use it for every title, DF did a video on this
     
  6. steveOrino

    steveOrino Regular

    Yeah, CPU was removed on CECH-C/E as well as the Rambus memory.

    ps2_netemu (the .self that was used for PSN classics) was far far away from full BC even with community configuration patches. For the stuff that is fully playable there might be various audio/visual glitches.
     
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  7. BillSpencer

    BillSpencer Regular

    In total numbers with what is playable (without glitches) it still dwarfs official Xbox emulation, which is often praised for its numbers. But you are correct, only the games released on PSN were fully tested and playable.

    Here is a list:
    https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/PS2_Classics_Emulator_Compatibility_List
     
  8. DSoup

    DSoup Series Soup Legend Subscriber

    What I think you're seeing here is the result of two distinct GPU resources being tested are interleaved as [fill rate] then [computational] then [fill rate] then [computational] then [fill rate] then [computational] repeated but with both GPU tasks initiated by the CPU. Ergo, what this benchmark demonstrates is less overall theoretical computation or fill rate performance but more crucially CPU setup times of the individual operations required to achieve the result.
     
  9. chris1515

    chris1515 Legend



    Some compiler stuff from SN System
     
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  10. Karamazov

    Karamazov Veteran

    #TOOLS !
     
  11. DSoup

    DSoup Series Soup Legend Subscriber

    Sony have been a long-time contributor to LLVM. It's a shame Microsoft don't also use LLVM because that would lead to better performance for all code produced by the compiler.
     
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  12. Globalisateur

    Globalisateur Globby Veteran Subscriber

    LLVM traditionally compiles faster, it does not necessarily make the code run faster.
     
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  13. DSoup

    DSoup Series Soup Legend Subscriber

    Compile times definitely do not translate to runtime performance, but I've not seen any comparison of code performance between the two compilers used by Sony and Microsoft. What I'm saying is, the more people using and - contributing using to the improvement of - compiler tech, the better for everybody. :yep2:
     
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  14. BRiT

    BRiT (>• •)>⌐■-■ (⌐■-■) Moderator Legend Alpha

    So everyone should be using the GNU toolsets like GCC?
     
  15. Globalisateur

    Globalisateur Globby Veteran Subscriber

    Well, I disagree. Competition is good also for compilers.
     
  16. DSoup

    DSoup Series Soup Legend Subscriber

    No, I'm very happy for anybody not concerned with code performance to use something else and not contaminate the code base of something that is. :yep2:
     
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  17. chris1515

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  18. tuna

    tuna Veteran

    When you have Free software like GCC and LLVM you can have competition of ideas withing the projects. It becomes a completely different situation than competition between companies' products.
     
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  19. Hm... weird, he is getting better temps than Gamer's Nexus. Topping at 97ºC on the memory when covering the console with a blanket. My guess is his results wont get much attraction as they are good.

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  20. Globalisateur

    Globalisateur Globby Veteran Subscriber

    Not surprised. The methodology of Gamer's Nexus have being questioned by some, and not only because of thermal pads. We could see on his setup the cables were preventing the shield to be correctly positioned.
     
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