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Yup, there have been very few devices capable of outputting HDMI 2.1 signals in which to test. Many TVs are still catching up because they've had so devices on which to test the inputs.
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Yup if something as hard to see as that is bothering you it would be better to have a high end PC because there will be much bigger more perceptible differences between a high end PC vs a console.
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Well it's not the same thing though..
Plenty of PC gamers use >$2500 systems on $300 1080p TN monitors because they really want 144FPS, whereas many console gamers invest on $2500 OLEDs to play their games on their $300 consoles.
Of course not.
At this point you might as well just wait for the C1 series in 2021.
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Don’t know how you got this idea. 18Gbps on 2.0 will limit you to 4K60. 4K120 at 422 won’t be noticeable for most. Full chroma bandwidth is only really necessary for PC as it can affect the appearance of text. Games and movies are mostly unaffected just due to the nature of the content, when you talk about the difference being perceptible by a human.
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Wait what ? If I'm not mistaken, until hdmi 2.1, YUV 4.2.2 was the max setting for 4k 60hz with HDR. And it looks fine. Except some very specific content (that I don't know about), I don't belive you'll be able to tell the difference between 422 and 444. Plus, and even if it's not 100% related, oled panel are still 10bits, I don't get the "need" for 12 bits signal...
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as if console games didn't have any text or graphics ;-)
It took me few seconds to notice that I'm on 422 when I tested HDR 4K/60 in Gran Turismo Sport on PS4Pro, it's clearly visible in their "Display Settings Assistant". And I confirmed that I'm seeing chroma subsampling artifacts when I dropped resolution to 1080p (HDR RGB 444).
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anexanhume
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If it’s so noticeable, why did it take a service menu to confirm it’s occurring?
Wouldn't that just be due to the lower res
The PS5 has a video output setting:
4K Video Transfer Rate
Adjust the transfer rate for 4K resolution video. If you experience flickering on your screen, try selecting -1 or -2 to limit transfer speed, and possibly improve picture quality.
Is -1 same as 4:2:2 and -2 same as 4:2:0?
It has also Automatic, guess that selects between those two?
4K Video Transfer Rate
Adjust the transfer rate for 4K resolution video. If you experience flickering on your screen, try selecting -1 or -2 to limit transfer speed, and possibly improve picture quality.
Is -1 same as 4:2:2 and -2 same as 4:2:0?
It has also Automatic, guess that selects between those two?
I had the same issue with Warframe at first. When I started playing it was washed out, like there was way too little contrast, and it was definitely no where near as sharp looking as on the PS4. But then I discovered that the HDMI port I was using on the TV didn't support 4K HDR. So I swapped those over and now its all crisp and shiny again. It also seem to be running 4K60 which is nice, but it does have adaptive resolution in play so...
Maybe you are hitting something like that?
Sony recently confirmed VRR will arrive soon to PS5 with an update.
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/11/09/ps5-the-ultimate-faq/
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Yes, those mappings are correct. Automatic will downgrade from full chroma when deemed necessary by the system, I suppose.
I wish the FAQ had a changelog. I confirmed with archive.org that VRR wasn't present in the original FAQ.
The article has being modified yesterday. That must be it. I read this article a few day ago and there wasn't any mention of VRR.
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