While the PS2 was officially released in winter same year in EU, in reality most got their hands on one the spring next year due to shortages, making the true launch in EU a year later!london-boy said:
Playstation 3 might come in 2007
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rabidrabbit said:While the PS2 was officially released in winter same year in EU, in reality most got their hands on one the spring next year due to shortages, making the true launch in EU a year later!
That's actually quite true, i could only get hold of one in February, so that's almost a whole year after Japan. And i was one of the lucky ones.
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PC-Engine said:
I thought it had more to do with production issues?
Maybe if it was cheaper for them to ready a EU launch stock over several months, instead of a few?
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Well maybe the production issues are the fact that PSP might still be too expensive to produce? I don't know, but it could be a possibility, and seen how it doesn't seem that they're having problems getting the PSPs done, it might be a likely one.
Or maybe they just have problems fitting the UK plug. No wait...
Yep production issues could be related to capacity or yields or both. If you have to up the QC it slows down production and adds to the production cost. If SONY wanted better quality LCDs from Sharp (fewer dead pixels) then they would need to pay more.
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This whole 'Playstation 3 in 2007' thing is utter nonsense. You can't put it in the publics mind - over the course of several events spanning two years - that the console will launch Sring of 2006 and then suddenly change it to 2007. And using Microsoft's launch performance as the criteria? What? C'mon - everyone is expecting the launch to go well, am I right? It'll be a year or two into it that determines the larger picture. Plus with a rumored November 4th launch (as per the Wal-Mart leak) Sony is already going to be pretty far along in the process; I doubt it would be easy to put the brakes on system production plans and just go back into R&D mode.
Not to mention all your devs are on a schedule that assumes a 2006 launch; I mean...
Anyway this whole 2007 thing is utterly ridiculous. There are merits to a later launch, but the ball is already in play and Sony has commited to spring 2006.
PS - London Boy interesting theory on the European PSP launch - could very well be the case. They wait to launch based on lowering costs to manufacture, but hide behind a veil of 'supply issues.' Just as likely as anything else, to be sure.
Not to mention all your devs are on a schedule that assumes a 2006 launch; I mean...
Anyway this whole 2007 thing is utterly ridiculous. There are merits to a later launch, but the ball is already in play and Sony has commited to spring 2006.
PS - London Boy interesting theory on the European PSP launch - could very well be the case. They wait to launch based on lowering costs to manufacture, but hide behind a veil of 'supply issues.' Just as likely as anything else, to be sure.
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That's like saying they're paying the price they're paying now for the screens, accepting the dead pixel issue.
If i were Sony, and Sharp came up to me saying "Our screens have dead pixels cause you're not paying us enough" then i would snap my fingers and get someone else to do the screens, that's totally out of order. Sharp are getting paid a price (which i think is not that low anyway)they agreed together, to supply LCD screens. Fully working LCD screens.
I think they're trying to make the UK PSP waterproof. Portables here have to be, with the amount of crap weather we get.
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Actually I think Sharp said, "Ok we can sell you these new high performance screens at a low cost because they have a certain number of dead pixels. If you want pefect LCDs then it'll cost you more money since our yields are not that great right now". BTW as far as I know, nobody can make LCDs as cheap as Sharp with the same quality at the volumes needed. That's why you don't see LCDs with the same image quality as the PSP on any portable devices yet.
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And then Sony used those screens KNOWING they had dead pixels, then they were selling the PSPs KNOWING they had faulty LCD screens? All the while with big evil grins on their faces? WOW.
london-boy said:
You're quite gullible and your little smiley makes it even worse...
LCDs are sold by companies knowing there will be a certain number of units with a certain percentage of dead pixels. Why do you think they have return policies that deal directly with dead pixels?
Simply put SONY may have compromised with LCD quality to get a cheaper price by going with B grade materials. They may have thought that people wouldn't notice a couple of dead pixels here and there.
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Wasn't there talk from late last year of problems getting volume production of PSP and PS2 chips @ 90nm? Isn't this why they're trying to get 3rd parties to make those chips? I think it's production capacity more than anything. They can't stop PS2 production, not when they have to make like another 20M of the suckers. And PSP won't be as profitable as the consoles since tie-ratios on handhelds are always lower. They've only shipped 5M units to date. For this fiscal year, they're only shipping 12M, which puts capacity at 1M/month where they projected it to be earlier this year. So I assume they're not actually gonna be able to ramp up production to 2M per month this Summer as was originally stated. I doubt anything can be said about yields until we actually know the die size of the chip inside. PEACE.
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There's no way Sony would willingly delay in NA beyond November '06. It would be suicide.
I think 2007 launch is possible if Microsoft fails to get significant head start with X360...then Sony will be able to delay PS3 launch to 2007 with much lower production cost.(better yield, probably cheaper Blu-ray, all leads to higher # of supply) But that is really big if..might be possible in Japan, but no way in US.
I am sure Sony would love to have PS3 delayed to 2007 but it is better to lose bigger money for launching in 2006 then give Microsoft with significant lead.
I am sure Sony would love to have PS3 delayed to 2007 but it is better to lose bigger money for launching in 2006 then give Microsoft with significant lead.
Do y'all really believe that SOny thinks that any lead MS gets will be consequential? If everyone that owns a xbox buys an x360 (20 million) and a third of the people who own PS2 buy a Ps3 (30 million) Sony still wins... and I think that in terms of features and visuals PS3's value proposition FAR exceeds that of PS2. I'm an Xbox fan for sure... in fact I dont own a PS2 but play it at my buds house from time to time... but buying a PS3 is a no-brainer this generation. It doesnt matter WHEN Sony launches.
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The marketplace doesn't work that way IMO.
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OK it would be bad for Sony to miss christmas 2006 in North America but i gurantee you that casuals will either a) wiat or b) trade up their 360 when PS3 launches... I have heard several people tell me that. Much like this gen... there will be very few people that will own a 360 that will skip out on PS3 but there will be lots of people who will do the reverse.
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