Pioneer: 4-7million PS3 units to ship this year?

[Nicked]

From an interview with Andy Parsons, senior vice president of Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc.

BH: What's interesting is that the gamers out there... there weren't many of them who were thinking about watching movies on their PS2s. But since the PS3 is going to be high-definition and Blu-ray capable right out of the box, it's going to be a real wildcard for the growth of this format.

AP: You're right. The PS3 is going to represent an almost overnight population explosion of Blu-ray capable players. That's not something that's really happened before. The PlayStation 2 helped, because that came well down the road after DVD launched, but it did help to get a lot of players out there. But this is something new. The PS3 is launching right at the forefront of Blu-ray Disc. If Sony ships the kind of numbers we expect them to this year, that will provide a very rapid growth of players out there hungry for titles. We've been hearing between 4 and 7 million units could ship. And if you look at PlayStation Portable, with UMD discs, everyone is shocked at how many titles have shipped for that platform. And they're selling as well or better than the game software. So I think Sony has proven that they can drive a new video format like this with their gaming platforms.

BH: It's certainly been a surprise to me. Given that the PSP probably has a fairly limited format life, people still seem willing to buy those same movie titles again in a new format.

AP: Especially if there's a perceived value to them. You know, certain titles seem to have that attached value. If and when Star Wars ever comes out in high-definition... (laughs) I don't think I even need to finish that sentence.

BH: Well, I've heard it straight from Lucasfilm reps that it IS coming eventually. And given that Fox is exclusively backing Blu-ray Disc...

AP: Right. We'll see. (smiles)

4-7M? More than I expect(ed). 2-3M Japan, 1-2M US, 1-2M Europe?
How does that compare to PS2/2000?

If they manage that I'll be happy, should be enough so that the launch in Australia isn't delayed unlike a certain other console...
Source
via Kleegamefan@GAF.

 

[Nesh]

From an interview with Andy Parsons, senior vice president of Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc.

4-7M? More than I expect(ed). 2-3M Japan, 1-2M US, 1-2M Europe?
How does that compare to PS2/2000?

If they manage that I'll be happy, should be enough so that the launch in Australia isn't delayed unlike a certain other console...
Source
via Kleegamefan@GAF.

4-7 million at launch?I highly doubt it

 

[Nicked]

4-7 million at launch?I highly doubt it

This year

 

[Nesh]

This year

ohh ok then that changes everything

 

[Joe DeFuria]

Shrug...4-7 million is a pretty wide range....

 

[mojovonious]

that's a lot of units. I doubt they'll sell that much in the first year with a 399-499 prcie tag. Most people won't buy a console unless its withing the 299-399 range.

 

[Qroach]

i doubt they will make that many this year. to make that many they'd have to start manufacturing soon. I'm fairly certain sony isn't ready to do that yet.

 

[mojovonious]

Like, are companies just making random stuff up?

"Tampax reports that the PS3's packaging will have wings and added comfort."

I mean, its just nuts these days.

 

[MechanizedDeath]

Not indicative of anything in particular, but considering the PS2's "production woes" early on, Sony shipped 6.5M in the first 9 months, and 10M in the first 12. 4-7M isn't that farfetched. PEACE.

 

[one]

How does that compare to PS2/2000?

It's in line with PS2.
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps2_e.html

2000/03/06 720,000 units (Japan only)
2000/03/15 1 million units (Japan only)
2000/03/31 1.41 million units (Japan only)
2000/05/24 2 million units (Japan only)
2000/06/30 2.54 million units (Japan only)
2000/08/01 3 million units (Japan only)
2000/09/30 3.52 million units (Japan only)
2000/12/31 6.4 million units (Japan: 3.94 million/ USA: 1.46 million/ Europe: 1.0 million)

 

[ihamoitc2005]

Market price

that's a lot of units. I doubt they'll sell that much in the first year with a 399-499 prcie tag. Most people won't buy a console unless its withing the 299-399 range.

If only 4-7M units shipped for total worldwide then big shortage will occur and many will be angry. For US, Sony always have September release only so for 4 months (sept,oct,nov,dec) sales will be much more than 4 Million (>1M/month). What about Japan, Europe, others?

 

[Qroach]

Yeah if PS3 came out in march. to bad that won't happen.

 

[mckmas8808]

Like, are companies just making random stuff up?

"Tampax reports that the PS3's packaging will have wings and added comfort."

I mean, its just nuts these days.

So are you saying that nobody told him that 4-7 million PS3's could ship to the world this year? What makes you think it's impossible?

 

[mckmas8808]

Yeah if PS3 came out in march. to bad that won't happen.

Hence the 4-7 million.

 

[valioso]

microsoft expects to sell 4m by june thats 7 months after launch.. is not that out of the question.. I just dont think it will come out early enough for it.

 

[ihamoitc2005]

Production

microsoft expects to sell 4m by june thats 7 months after launch.. is not that out of the question.. I just dont think it will come out early enough for it.

Problem for Microsoft is production and 2 models. If all models are premium type and production rate is good 1M/month is no problem for Xbox360. Problem is not enough premium units is produced.

For PS3, if US launch is September like normal Sony launch, then US demand is > 4 Million units no problem. Like Xbox360, demand will be >1M/month at >$500/unit. If 4-7M units is total worlwide supply, there will be "shortage". Problem will be too much demand and not enough units. Ebay will make good money.

 

[zidane1strife]

Not indicative of anything in particular, but considering the PS2's "production woes" early on, Sony shipped 6.5M in the first 9 months, and 10M in the first 12. 4-7M isn't that farfetched. PEACE.

HOLY COW and that was practically worse case scenario with regards to manufacturing(airshipping 100s of thousands and all.) . Which means these numbers are likely underestimating the true figure, assuming it makes spring, if it's fall like say october or november, then it would likely be inline.

 

[Bobbler]

I think the most interesting part of it is the DLNA support. I hope more DLNA stuff catches on... Sony seems on board with it (I imagine DLNA support for PSP will happen in march or shortly after, and PS3 will likely have it). Who needs a MCExtender or MCE computer when you have a BR player or a PS3 and a DLNA server (which, it seems there will be or is already software to create a DLNA compliant server on your PC, so there is no need for a dedicated box). While a dedicated Media Center has merits, I'd far prefer an NAS with DLNA compliance and then just having my normal computers.

If MS would just back it more (they are a part of the DLNA organization, so they are a part of it) and support it in Vista out of the box, I'd buy it launch day (maybe they are? I haven't heard anything -- anyone know anything about that?).

Would be neat if they could/would add DLNA compliance to X360 as well. Seems like something they should be able to trivially add (if patching X360's firmware/OS is possible? I imagine it is)

Edit: It seems, after a bit of investigation, Vista and XP MCE are DLNA compliant -- I guess I have reason for Vista now (or XP MCE). Good news for all.

 

[mckmas8808]

Here's something interesting....

Well actually, the managed copy function is mandatory on software titles, but the hardware does not necessarily have to support it. The other thing about managed copy is that no one has really gotten down to the details yet on how it's gonna work from a cost point of view. It's probably not reasonable to expect that you'll be able to make a copy of something and access it forever for free. Otherwise you could just go rent a movie and copy it to your harddrive - that's not something that's really fair or intended. So there's a transactional side to it that has to be worked out. Our first player doesn't support managed copy, simply because that whole structure's not in place yet. That'll take time.

Hmmm...

 

[zidane1strife]

That should be fair and intended , maybe with more automation in a few decades. The gov. will hopefully eventually give everyone a salary for living without doing nothing(and without having to go through the hassles of coupons and lvng in shtplaces/slums/the like.).

Information begs to be free, and it should be, all of it.